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Still not in the same class as Charlie Boorman. ;-) However, and FWIW, I suggest that folk actually obey the 40 kph limits, especially north (uphill) bound. There are two corners so limited, and they just happen to exit, in line of sight (or radar/laser) of the cut-backs to allow emergency joining of the Freeway to the Old Road. Those cut-backs look like a good place for a cop bike or car to be parked, and have room for a few motorcyclists to be held for "councelling". To be fair, if they ever need to divert traffic from Freeway to O.R., they will need the uphill traffic slowed down for those two potential junctions. regards, CrazyCam N.B. this was originally e-mail to BTH, for which I have apologised!.
Goodo. I look forward to holding up those marauding packs of feral bicyclists as they attempt to overtake me on the uphill stretches. None shall pass!
There is hope. "The RTA has not authorised any drop in the speed limit of the Pacific Highway to 40 km/hr. Gosford Council without RTA approval has implemented this for roadworks. I will be discussing this urgently with Council today to get them to remove the signs."
In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:12:51 +1000 As I have said elsewhere "who profits?" London to a brick this is about Gosford Council trying to get away with not maintaining the road. Really low speed limits mean lower maintenance requirements. Really low speed limits also mean fewer vehicles will bother to take the road. Roadworks? Bet they never happen. Or happen over a very long period of time but the signs stay up. Zebee
Yesterday,Tue 3 Jun. The only 40kph limit ares were not very long and associated with "beware of falling rocks" signs.
Ah, it all makes sense now. Normally, a "falling rocks" sign is combined with the message, "Do not stop" presumably so you don't get hit with the rocks falling, but, on the Old Road, they want us to slow down to give the rocks a fair chance of hitting us. I'm sure there is some logic there, somewhere. OTOH, it may be a cunning plan so that Queensland licenced riders of mopeds, which can't do more than 50 kph, still get a chance to break the speed limit on the Old Road.... speaking hypothetically, of course. The loonies _have_ taken over the asylum. :-| regards, CrazyCam
No no Cam, you're interpreting those signs the wrong way. If you read it as "falling rocks do not stop" then it makes perfect sense, 'cos they don't. ;-) BTH
Aye, that's the trouble when one is struggling with English. I love those road signs where they are campaigning for "End of Work". regards, CrazyCam
Or the "No line markings. Don't overtaking unless safe" or words to that effect. Does that mean that it IS okay to overtake if unsafe, as long as there ARE lines marked on the road?
The folk at Gosford Council need some serious donut rationing because of this. Viewed it today and can report as follows:- EVERY 40km/h speed limit sign is almost immediately conflicted by a higher speed advisory sign...often within the same field of view. ....dubious legality of being issued a fine when the road environment suggests a higher limit is in place. Am sure this conflicts with logic and RTA policy on placement of speed limit and advisory signs. I have never ever seen Limit signs lower than advisory signs on a section of road anywhere in Australia...that's..stupid. Fallen rock or roadworks signs are not always associated with the 40 sign. The sections claimed to be subject to falling rocks actually have stable cuttings. I have never (in 20+ plus years OPH experience) seen issues in those sections, apart from the infamous collapse of the retaining wall below the freeway on the uphill section. Across the entire length including the Calga north section, the cuttings don't exhibit any signs of continual erosion or rock falls....It's bollocks. Heading south, down the hill towards Mooney, just before Cheerio Pt road, there is a Roadworks ahead advisory sign. There is NO further evidence (recent or otherwise) of ANY roadworks ..until you actually get to the Mooney bend where the Tourist/Scenic Drive sign is positioned (recent work to erect the sign)..Yet there is no signage at all at that point..nor could I see the need for one. The matching Scenic/Tourist Drive and Speed limit sign at Calga is.."60". Some idiot has positioned a garden bed immediately in front..given a few months of the usual zero maintenance, this sign will be obscured as well. Good work guys. If the relevant slug bandit in charge at the responsible body for erecting these signs (and jam donut runs) would get off their overpaid and well-rounded behinds in their lunch hour, waddle down with the office toeclippers to remove the foliage obscuring or blocking some Advisory and Speed Limit signs, then this should be a more positive contribution to improving road safety on the OPH than the dubious practise of confusing the hell out of roadusers with a rapid succession of conflicting signage. The whole process reeks of being ill-conceived or deliberately poorly executed to ensure RTA intervention. The road is now even harder to deal with given the excessive and confusing signage.
