Opinions wanted: Hyusung GV650C Aquila cruiser

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Diogenes, Jun 19, 2011.

  1. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    Anyone ridden one of these?

    I'm not fussed about the chrome. I can pain most of it matt black.

    I've worked with Koreans, and if the guys at Hyusung are anything like
    these guys, the bike must be damn near perfect.


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 19, 2011
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    Deevo Guest

    I'm not familiar with their bikes but I've been involved with spare parts
    for Kia cars for over three years now and that included a tour of the
    factory in Seoul in 2009. Make no mistake about it there is a fierce
    rivalry between the Koreans and the Japanese and this comes across as well
    motivated and proud manufacturers. Hyundai is now the fifth largest
    automotive manufacturer in the world and both their and Kia's product (both
    companies operate under the umbrella of Mobis group) are as good as any
    around. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if their two wheeled products
    are building a similar pedigree.

    Oh, and for the record, I've just placed an order for a Kia Sorento to
    replace my Toyota Kluger. :)
    Deevo, Jun 19, 2011
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    Yeebok Guest

    It's not entirely relevant but I still haven't managed to kill my 2005
    Yeebok, Jun 19, 2011
  4. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    Well, I guess we can take that as an endorsement of Korean quality.


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 19, 2011
  5. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    And while we're at it, I'd like to know what you thinkabout belt
    drives. And why. Thanks. :)


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 19, 2011
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    bikerbetty Guest

    I've wondered about belt drives myself. Are they more durable than a chain?
    Less maintenance than a chain and less weight than a shaft? Safer? More
    efficient? Cheaper/more expensive??? Why do some bikes have a belt drive
    rather than the other options??? Are they better, or just different? I
    suppose there are pros and cons , but I'd love to know what they are! I know
    Pisshead's managed to snap a couple...

    bikerbetty, Jun 20, 2011
  7. Diogenes

    Yeebok Guest

    Yes. :)
    Yeebok, Jun 20, 2011
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Fair goes, betty!

    Pete puts a LOT of effort into snapping belts. ;-)

    CrazyCam, Jun 20, 2011
  9. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:51:39 +1000
    I did about 40thou on a belt drive 250.

    It was definitely in the "don't notice it" department.

    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 20, 2011
  10. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    Found these pro-belt comments:


    "My bike is around the same Hp and I ride the snot out of it, belt
    still looks like new, even after the drag strip.LOL."

    "I would need to be convinced there was no other choice to go back to
    a chain after the clean easy maintenance of a belt."

    "AKA and i race and we have yet to do a belt. I have put 120+hp
    through a belt and my current ride is the same sort of numbers. As
    stated, belt adjustment is more important and tyre pressure on the
    strip. There are 4-5 guys that race a variety of motors regularly at
    the drags and they all run chains, but then again, the quickest harley
    raced regularly runs a belt on a street bob."

    "I've never owned a belt drive before the Harley and now the Z1000
    gives me the shits having to adjust it and clean it all the time, if I
    could put a belt on it I would. But then, some folk still prefer
    points. LOL."


    "Yes shaft drives are maintenance free except for gear oil chainged.
    Belt Drives only loose minimal power compaired to chain and are much
    easier to maintain."

    "I would take a shaft or belt just because I dislike chain
    maintenance, ..."

    = = = = = =

    Mind you, there are some anti-belt comments too, so I dunno... but
    they don't seem to be a bad thing.

    Over to the brains trust....


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 20, 2011
  11. Yeebs, send me your email
    something I want to talk to you about the Hyosung GT250
    George W Frost, Jun 20, 2011
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Deevo" wrote
    Was there something wrong with the Kluger?
    My daughter in law had a Sorento (the first release) and it was a pile
    of crap. I was forever being asked to pick her up/drop her off at the
    dealer's service dept. Traded it within 12 months.

    OK. She traded it on a MB ML320 which she had for four years, then
    got pregnant again and traded that on an MB GL320. That thing appears
    to have more seats than a Toyota Civilian.

    Theo Bekkers, Jun 21, 2011
  13. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    Oh dear... There goes my theory... :)


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 21, 2011
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    Doug Cox Guest

    I like 'em. The old Softail had a belt, was adjusted at 16,000kms and
    never needed another adjustment. Lasted 130,000kms. When it went, it
    started de-laminating from the edge that had a stone embedded in it.
    The stone appeared at about 70,000kms, was visible from both sides of
    the belt. Once it started de-laminating it took a couple of weeks to
    break down to the point where it was losing teeth, by which time the
    new belt was ready to go on. It ran the second belt from 130,000kms to
    180,000kms at which point I sold the bike.

    This space for rent...
    Doug Cox, Jun 21, 2011
  15. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    Thanks for that, Doug.

    I'm feeling fine about them now. Chains are too messy and shafts
    suck up too much power, so belts are it when thinking of getting a
    puny 650cc cruiser.

    I think I'm going to be a Hyosung Hoon soon. :)


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 21, 2011
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    Nev.. Guest

    Aside from all of the advantages and disadvantages of chains, shafts and
    belts, the greatest disadvantage of a belt drive is that it is highly
    unlikely to give any visual or audible indication of it's intention to
    fail prior to breaking, and when it does you're stopped on the side of
    the road with no drive. Happened to me on my XB12R a few years ago on
    the first day of an 8 day ride, on a Saturday afternoon, 200km from the
    nearest Buell dealership. Luckily I was paranoid enough to buy a spare
    belt and throw it in my bag when I was packing for the trip.

    Nev.., Jun 21, 2011
  17. Diogenes

    Diogenes Guest

    Fair enough point, Nev. But as you say, one can carry a spare, and
    given the critical nature of the thing, I reckon I might.

    A question for both you and Doug:

    Are dirt roads (sand/gravel getting onto the belt) a problem for belt


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Jun 21, 2011
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    Yeebok Guest

    username at gmail. :)
    Yeebok, Jun 21, 2011
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    Deevo Guest

    Well I had an old mate who used to run a motorcycle school in the mid 80s
    and he swore by his belt drive CM250 Honda. If memory serves he managed to
    get about 60k out of a drive belt which, considering it was mostly ridden by
    learners, is pretty damn good IMO.
    Deevo, Jun 21, 2011
  20. Diogenes

    Deevo Guest

    Not at all, it is just soon to get to the age of diminishing return and I'm
    getting a bit tired of people taking the piss because I work for a Kia
    dealer. :)
    What was the issue with it? We still have a few of the old 3.5 Sorentos on
    the books and apart from an issue they have when being overrevved in soft
    sand (which they share with the similar engined Pajeros) they have tended to
    be fairly reliable, for us at least. When they went to the 3.3 / 3.8
    engines and the 2.5 diesel they only got better.
    We service quite a few European cars at my work and as long as they're
    properly looked after they're pretty decent. If you neglect the servicing
    however they can self destruct pretty dramatically. Add to that you don't
    want to know what Biodiesel does to a Merc CRDI engine.
    Deevo, Jun 21, 2011
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