OT[1]: Aerobatics

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  1. ****. Me.



    I do not expect this man to die from old age...


    [1] Although there are a couple of bikes in it.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 10, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Bloody hell, that is some fancy flying. He is one of the best in the
    world but it only takes one tiny mistrake .......
    Balls of steel.
     
    crn, Mar 10, 2009
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    platypus Guest

    He does deliberately what you do inadvertently? He must have semi-circular
    canals of pure brass.
     
    platypus, Mar 10, 2009
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  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    <G>

    I would do any one of those (inadvertently, or advertently) precisely
    once. Followed *very* shortly thereafter by a *very* loud bang.
    Indeed. I wonder if he's *ever* been sick?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 10, 2009
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    bod43 Guest

    This guy did. Die of old age that is.





    Mind ewe - his son did not.
     
    bod43, Mar 10, 2009
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  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, bod43
    Indeed. :^(

    Reading about Mark Hanna, I was reminded of the story of Neil Williams.

    Now, if you're looking for a man with huge great hairy balls, there was
    one.

    One day he was flying a Zlin aerobatic aircraft when there was aloud
    BANG! and it all went pear shaped.

    Oh look, this is long, but he tells it *so* much better:

    "The reason for the sensation of being pulled to the left was very soon
    apparent. Although the left wing was flying more or less level, the rest
    of the aeroplane was rolling left around the failure point. At this
    stage there was some degree of control over the aircraft, which was by
    this time beginning to lose height. I throttled fully back to reduce
    speed and thereby reduce the flight loads, but this caused the nose to
    drop further. Dihedral was increasing steadily and the roll and yaw to
    the left were becoming progressively more determined. Full power was
    then applied in an attempt to get the nose up, but this had no effect at
    all on the situation. By this time the aircraft was outside the airfield
    and losing height fast. It was my intention to try to keep the wings as
    level as possible and to try to achieve a shallow flight path with the
    intention of arriving, if possible, right way up in the most convenient
    field available. It was, however, apparent that if control was being
    lost at that rate, it would have gone completely before reaching the
    ground. In fact all control was finally lost at about 300ft, 91m.

    At this stage the aircraft had turned left nearly 90° from its original
    heading, and was banked 90° to the left (at least the fuselage was). I
    thought the wing had folded to about 45° but it was probably less than
    that, if one takes into account the fright factor. Full right aileron
    and rudder were being held on and the throttle was wide open as the bank
    reached 90° left and the nose finally dropped. The sideslip was very
    high, and the instinctive reaction to pull the stick back only worsened
    the situation. I had heard a report from Bulgaria some years ago where a
    top wing bolt had failed on an early mark of Zlin whilst under negative
    g and that the aircraft had involuntarily flick rolled right way up,
    whereupon the wing came back into position, and the aircraft was landed
    by a very frightened, but alive, pilot. I had guessed by this time that
    a lower wing bolt had failed and that I was faced with a similar
    situation, albeit inverted.

    It seemed that if positive G had saved the Bulgarian, negative G might
    work for me. In any event, there was nothing else left to try. I
    centralised the rudder, rolled left and pushed, still with full
    throttle. The wing snapped back into position with a loud bang. which
    made me even more concerned for the structure. Immediately the negative
    G started to rise and the nose started coming up. Altitude was very low
    by this time and I had no instrument readings at all. For just a moment
    I thought I was going into the trees, but then the nose was up and the
    machine was climbing fast, inverted. I was just beginning to think that
    I might make it after all when the engine died. I checked the fuel
    pressure - zero. A check around the cockpit revealed the fact that the
    main fuel cock had been knocked off. This could possibly have been the
    result of the jolt which accompanied the initial failure. I think I was
    probably thrown around in the cockpit and may well have accidentally
    knocked the cock then. I selected reserve fuel and almost immediately
    realised that this position would take fuel from the bottom of the
    gravity tank, which was of course now upside down. I therefore
    re-selected main tank and after a few coughs the engine started and ran
    at full power.

    Inverted circuit
    I was quite low again by this time and initially started to climb
    straight ahead. I then turned back towards the airfield and continued
    the inverted climb to 1OOOft, 305m. By this time, the remainder of the
    team had been very quick off the mark and had alerted crash facilities.
    I throttled back to conserve fuel as I knew the gravity tank was only
    good for about 8 minutes safe inverted flight. I then turned the
    aircraft in steady flight and held the stick between my knees (no
    aileron trimmer) whilst I used both hands to tighten my shoulder harness
    even more. Had a parachute been carried I would have climbed as high as
    possible and used it.

    I then considered using undercarriage and/or flaps, but rejected both.
    Flaps were no use to me whilst inverted, and I could not fly right way
    up anyway. Also if only one flap extended it would cause an immediate
    loss of control. The undercarriage required more thought. If I could
    make an inverted approach with a last minute rollout and if the aircraft
    arrived on its wheels damage might be minimised. However, if the gear
    fully or partially collapsed the aircraft might turn over. Also, and
    this was the biggest argument against, the Zlin undercarriage usually
    extends with a fairly solid thump.

    I did not know exactly what damage had occurred and I was concerned in
    case the strain of lowering the wheels might remove the wing altogether.
    It was just as well that I left thewheels up, because the failure was
    not the wing bolt after all, but in the centre section inboard of the
    undercarriage leg.

    I also considered four possibilities for landing, namely, inverted
    ditching, deliberately crashing inverted into trees to take the impact,
    inverted crash-landing on the airfield, or an inverted approach with a
    last minute rollout and hope for the best.

    The last seemed to hold the best chances for survival, but I then
    decided to experiment to see which way was the best to rollout; if the
    rate of fold of the wing was sufficiently slow it might have been
    possible to exercise some control over what was obviously going to be a
    belly landing (I hoped). A rollout to the left was attempted, and the
    wing immediately started to fold, with the result that the inverted
    flight was quickly re-established. The rollout to the right was not
    investigated, as the left wing was obviously being weakened by these
    manoeuvres. Also the supply of adrenalin was getting rather low by this
    time.

    A wide inverted circuit was made for the grass strip parallel to runway
    23. As the crosswind was insignificant this afforded the best approach,
    clear of buildings and balloons. The threshold was crossed at 112
    m.p.h., 180 k.p.h. at about 200ft, 60m with the throttle closed. Petrol
    and switches were left on in case it was necessary to overshoot; also
    the canopy was retained, since I did not want my height judgement
    affected by slipstream. The possibility of a jammed canopy was
    considered, but the hood is very light, and I felt that I could break my
    way out if necessary. A slow inverted flare was made and the aircraft
    was levelled as near to the ground as possible.

    Low, low rollout
    As the speed fell to 87 m.p.h., 140 k.p.h. a full aileron rollout was
    made to the right, and just a trace of negative G was maintained in
    order to hold the left wing in place. The aircraft responded well to the
    controls at this stage, but as it approached level flight the left wing
    started to fold up again. The nose was already down as a result of the
    slight negative G, and subsequent examination of the impact marks showed
    that the left wing tip touched the ground during the roll, although this
    could not be felt inside the aircraft. As the wing folded the aircraft
    hit the ground hard in a slight nose down, left bank attitude. I
    released the controls and concentrated on trying to roll into a ball,
    knees and feet pulled up and in, and head down protected by arms. I had
    a blurred impression of the world going past the windscreen sideways and
    then with a final jolt, everything stopped. I released the harness,
    which had done a very good job, and then found that the canopy had
    sprung 6in, 15cm open and jammed. I didn't bother to investigate this,
    as the petrol tanks had split! I gave the canopy a resounding blow and
    it flew open first time. I felt mildly surprised that everything was
    still working as I evacuated the area, and having decided that the
    aircraft was not going to burn, and having also collected some semblance
    of breath and composure, I returned to the aircraft and made all
    switches safe. The crash services were on the scene very quickly, which
    was most encouraging. Fortunately they were not required."

    Like I said, monstrous great hairy balls. What a shame he flew into a
    hillside not too long thereafter.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 10, 2009
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    SD Guest

    Aha. I know you're keen on Manatees, and/or Dugongs, but how do you
    feel about Narwhals?

    http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/484667

    "Watch this movie"
    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CB1300SA-9/CBX1000Z
    |_\_____/_| ..99843../..00000.../..32117.
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG*
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11
    '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
     
    SD, Mar 11, 2009
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  8. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SD
    I should be grateful I had the speakers turned off, yes?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 11, 2009
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    SD Guest

    Ooh no. You *need* the speakers on.

    It's not the least bit irritating or catchy.
    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CB1300SA-9/CBX1000Z
    |_\_____/_| ..99843../..00000.../..32117.
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG*
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11
    '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
     
    SD, Mar 11, 2009
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    platypus Guest

    That's from his write-up in Flight International in 1970. He wrote a
    slightly different version as the last chapter in 'Airborne'. The Heinkel
    crash was in 1977.
     
    platypus, Mar 11, 2009
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    <mega-snip>

    "Also the supply of adrenalin was getting rather low by this
    time."

    No shit.
     
    TOG@Toil, Mar 11, 2009
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    T i m Guest

    Nothing quite so exciting for us but might have been for my 17 year
    old nephew who just few solo (PPL) for the first time last weekend.

    That must be a spooky moment when the instructor gets out and tells
    you to do a circuit all on yer own! At least when riding a bike for
    the first time you can just stop. ;-)

    Q for those who fly. Would you notice, as in would the plane feel
    different with just one (and light at that) person compared with two?

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 11, 2009
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    dog Guest

    indeed
     
    dog, Mar 11, 2009
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    Andrew998 Guest

    It really depends on the aircraft. I did my first solo in a Grumman AA5A and
    I really didn't notice much of a difference. One up in the Slingsby Firefly
    though was much more noticeable.
     
    Andrew998, Mar 11, 2009
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    T i m Guest

    Ah, thanks. I'll ask him what he was in at the time. I think it might
    have been Piper Cherokee of some sort.

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 11, 2009
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andrew998
    In a Cessna 152, without my lardy instructor, it was *very* noticeable.
    :^)
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 11, 2009
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    T i m Guest

    That's what I was wondering. ie, This lad not only had to contend with
    being in control of an airplane on his own (the psychology bit) but
    one that may actually also be handling differently (the mechanical
    bit).

    The weird thing for me, in a logical progression sense is that he's
    not even had a driving lesson yet!

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 11, 2009
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    platypus Guest

    One of the things that was said to me, back around the time of my first
    solo, was that the landing will be one of my best, because the plane will be
    the lightest I've ever flown it. In the case of a C150, someone like Nigel
    would make up around 15% of gross weight of the aircraft.
     
    platypus, Mar 11, 2009
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
    Remind me to crash on your house one day.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 11, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Unless the rules have changed[1] you can get a pilots licence at 16.

    [1] When I were a lad yadda yadda yadda.
     
    crn, Mar 11, 2009
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