OT, Again: Ping RC helicopteristi

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  1. Catman

    Catman Guest

    I keep almost getting round to getting another micro copter


    Question is:
    E-Flite blade MSR
    or
    Walkera 4-3

    I already have a 3 Walker mosquito type thing on 2.4G and a couple of
    liPos, so I guess a BNF might be better value?

    Is there anything newer and suitable?

    Needs to be inside flying really.

    TIA

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  2. Catman

    cat Guest

    I've staggered through a walkera 4#3b and an esky shitheap. I've now got
    a trex-450, which is awesome but evidently not an indoor thing.

    The walkera stuff won't bind with non walkera Txs, which annoyed me
    since I got a Dx7, I can't consolidate stuff onto the one Tx.

    The blade MSR looks fun, and will seemingly work with an upgrade path to
    spectrum gear. I made the decision to buy one before I went on holiday
    but got veto'ed on a 'not our walls' issue.

    That's my 2c, I've not been flying very long or experienced many helis fwiw.
     
    cat, Oct 3, 2010
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  3. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Not having much like finding a BNF one anyway.
    And since it looks like my LiPos might be screwed, it looks an evne choice.
    Longer and more than I have, I suspect :) Thanks.


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  4. Catman

    cat Guest

    cat, Oct 3, 2010
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    Catman Guest

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  6. Catman

    Cab Guest

    Weird. I've just dug out my Hummingbird yesterday as I want to get back into
    RC helis. What's the preferred SIM today?
     
    Cab, Oct 3, 2010
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  7. Catman

    Catman Guest

    SIM?

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  8. Catman

    Vass Guest

    you can fly a Honey Bee King 2 in a suitable garage
    (I do )
     
    Vass, Oct 3, 2010
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  9. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Indeed. Sadly all the garages to which I have access are full of 'stuff'

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  10. Catman

    Beav Guest

    They don't do much more than hover and scare dogs. Fun for 10 minutes, then
    you're done unless you're happy trying to fly through one window (windless
    days) and back in through another, or navigate the stairs while being
    distracted by dogs and/or kids. They're not in the least bit aerobatic
    though.
    Always a better bet coz they're more controllable and more reactive. And
    better, but still very limited.
    You're pretty limited then as most of the "proper" micro heli's are too big
    for in th' house. Ok for in a sports hall and outside though.
     
    Beav, Oct 3, 2010
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  11. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Phoenix
     
    Beav, Oct 3, 2010
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  12. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Ahh, great, thanks.

    Suggestions?


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  13. Catman

    Beav Guest

    For outside? Walkera 46G. For inside, 43G if you want proper control. The
    MSR (being fixed pitch) is less likely to damage anything in the house, or
    itself. Both the Walkera's are collective pitch, run FAR higher head speeds
    and are far less "bouncable" without digging into your wallet.


    For cheap (non co-ax) fun, the MSR is Ok if you know and accept its limits
    (totally non aerobatic), but if you have any designs on looping, rolling,
    stall turning, inverted flying, backwards flying, or any combination of that
    lot, the MSR will be a let down where the 4G3 will get you going. The 4G6
    will allow you to try any manoeuvre you want and it won't be the heli
    stopping it being successful if you bury it.

    A fair amount more money mind.
     
    Beav, Oct 3, 2010
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  14. Catman

    Catman Guest

    http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Sub-Micro-RC-Helicopters/Walkera-46S/p-97-1597/

    Like that?
    And the odds of me going from a co-ax to a collective are what, do you
    think?
    I'm not sure I have huge designs on that just yet, but your advice is
    much appreciated.

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  15. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Well that's a "6S", not a 6G, but it'd be perfect for flying indoors IF the
    indoors are somewhat bigger than your average living room., Still not 3D
    capable - being fixed pitch - not that 3D will be on your agenda straight
    away. The 43G is collective pitch not fixed.
    If the collective range is limited (initially), not a problem, in fact it
    gives better height control and a snappier response to a height command.
    Problem is, it also gives a snappier response to a reduced height control
    and if they're too much negative pitch, you can happily drill the thing into
    the floor. If you can measuer the pitch, -1 degree is plenty enough to start
    with.
    When you feel the need to go up a notch (or few) I've still got a brand new
    T-Rex 450 carbon/ali set up sitting here doing **** all. Comes with
    everything including brand new 2.4Gh radio and a pretty ali box. All
    charging needs catered for including a balancer for if fucking expensive
    batteries are brought into the game. Current batt's are standard 20 quiders
    (2)

    That could leave me by exchanging 400 sov's for it.
     
    Beav, Oct 4, 2010
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  16. Catman

    Dylan Smith Guest

    The MSR is a lot of fun and doesn't cost a fortune, I've flown a friends
    and it's a fun indoor thing. I've also had a go with the Walkera collective
    pitch micro helis, and while they work, there's a lot of slop in the head
    (meaning they can be a bit imprecise) and they are *fast* so you need
    a BIG indoors to really make the best of them.

    However, for myself I have a T-Rex 500 and a T-Rex 600 (both electric),
    definitely *not* indoor! (And very expensive to crash). But very much
    aerobatic.
     
    Dylan Smith, Oct 4, 2010
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  17. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Right gotcha. I *think* the 4G3 is going to be a bit big (if I've
    finally worked it out)

    http://heli-torque.co.uk/helicopters/micro-helicopters/walkera-4g3.html

    Right, noted. Thanks again

    I might well get round to that. Later.

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  18. Catman

    Catman Guest

    So I hear :)

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  19. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Yeah, great for doing aero's but not tough enough to withstand a "walling"
    or being snatched out of the air by a dog. It'd hurt a kid though, so
    there's an upside.
    I believe that to buy it in a shop, you'd be looking at substantially more
    money. Over 200 quid more IIRC.
     
    Beav, Oct 5, 2010
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  20. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Beav wrote:
    I am sure it's a really good deal, but £400 of model helicopter versus
    new flooring downstairs....

    SWMBO is *good* but that might be pushing it.

    I would like it, but oddly after 6 years living in our house, that we
    figured would take us 6 months to decorate, *I* quite fancy a decent
    kitchen, flooring, paint and so on as well.

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