188kg is heavy, man. -- Lozzo the velologist Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X
It's heavier than either of my bikes, although just a little more powerful. Hang on: if the dry weight's 188kg, and the fuel capacity is 16.5 litres, how do they get "less than 200 kilos fully tanked"? Specific gravity of petrol is ~0.74; 16.5 x .74 = 12.21 188 + 12.21 = 200.21 And then there's oil, coolant, etc., etc.
But it doesn't claim 188kg dry weight, it claims 188kg without fuel. So you can knock off 5kg for a battery, ~3kg for oil, ~3kg for water to get what some other manufacturers might claim is the dry weight. There should be a standard for comparison of weights - with a full tank and ready to go.
Well, if a Blade is 199kg fully fueled, I can't imagine a GSXR being too much different. Assuming 1 litre of fluid = 1 kg. 18 litres of fuel, 3.3 litres of oil, maybe 1 litre of coolant, misc brake fluid etc, that gives about 23kg. 166 + 23 = 190 odd for a GSXR.
The roads in are mostly single lane each direction. They create a one way system to get you in and out, but the sheer volume of traffic, and the lack of traffic flow once inside means many delays getting in. Getting out is worse as it becomes a free-for-all with the obvious bottle necks at the entrance gates. I used to park up just off the dual carraigeway and then walk in. That in itself was quite exciting with 1000s of bikes around. Getting out can be a joke. Some people take portable BBQs and sit it out for a few hours. That's OK if you don't have 4 hours to drive. Again, walking out would take me about 30 minutes, then I was straight onto the main A road. Probably difficult to get a space these days though. I used to go to the inside of Maclanes[1] as you could see them coming down Craner curves, up through Schwanz's, through Maclanes and then Coppice. You used to be able to see them go into Foggy's until they put the banking up along the back straight. [1] Probably spelt wrong, but LTSTGI
Measured weights from http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_weights_measurements/index.html - wet but without fuel: Blade - 191.8 ZX10R - 192.7 Gixer - 188.6 R1 - 192.3 999 - 196.4 So it looks like KTM might be telling the truth after all if their '188kg without fuel' claim is correct. -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Not a great assumption. Petrol is roughly 25% less dense than water and I think even engine oil is around 10% less.
Good point, I didn't read it properly. That would be the easiest way to do it, if anybody was that bothered.
When I read that, my first thought was to sneak onto the track and try and race my bike in the GP. I think I'm having one of those mornings. Focus man, focus. What's it like spectating for real as opposed to watching on the box? I could draw a parallel with golf - I've been to the Open many times, some people say it's not good to go, as you don't miss /anything/ on the TV. I say that the atmosphere, tension and seeing their skill in the flesh, make it worth it, and you just follow a certain percentage of the battle with the rest being on the scoreboards etc. Same sort of thing? -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 2001 ZX-9R (red and black) 1999 M5 (neither black nor red) Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
Troo. How does "not as good as Brands Hatch" as an answer grab you? ) Yes, but only in a first corner smack-up kind of way. You can't see a lot once they've gone round Hollywood and these days it's a bit of a free-for-all to get a good spot up on the bank to allow you to see over the advertising hoardings. <fx:nostalgic sigh> AAT, can't they bring back the Transatlantic races?
No. A bike race actually has something worth watching. HTH. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Thanks, very fucking useful. -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 2001 ZX-9R (red and black) 1999 M5 (neither black nor red) Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
Well, what you obviously get is noise. Lots of noise. Depending on what happens on the track, you might get what could be construed as an "atmosphere" but this only really happens in exceptional circumstances or when a British rider is doing particularly well.[1] Not really. One is "a good walk spoiled" and the other one is noisy motorbikes going round abd round. [1] Such as Niall McKenzie in a WSB round at Brands Hatch on the Cadbury's Boost Yamaha as a wildcard entry.
Well, James Toseland won't have the "ooh but I don't know the circuit" excuse this time. Although admittedly that is trotted out mostly by the BBC pundits, especially Suzi Perry who wants his cock[1]. I'll support Lorenzo. Biggest balls I've seen for a long while[2]. [1] Allegedly? [2] Metaphorical balls. I don't generally look at balls. I've said too much, haven't I? -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 2001 ZX-9R (red and black) 1999 M5 (neither black nor red) Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
An excellent point, my MythTV is already set to record all MotoGPs. **** it, I'm going. I've been burnt out on work for weeks and I deserve a break. -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 2001 ZX-9R (red and black) 1999 M5 (neither black nor red) Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
Isn't she a renown slapper? Certainly flirts with everyone, but then if I had her job, I'd probably be flirting with any brolly dolly that would listen. Talking of cocks...
She's reputed to have been overheard in the Brands paddock late at night on the phone to a friend, in tears because Toseland had just turned her down. -- Lozzo the velologist Suzuki SV650S K5 Honda CBR600 FW trackbike Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka Suzuki GSXR750 L Suzuki TS50X Suzuki TS50X
