In the end I did get a Sting, which I took with me when I went down to Devon a couple of weeks ago[1] - what a lot of fun - extremely fast, pulls a fair bit, easy to control and turns amazingly fast - the tricks are impressive... But... I wanted something to have a fight with (don't ask me why - I don't know)... so, in the tradition of all expensive[2] hobbies, I got something else today - a Blade III 3.0m - not huge, but for the winds round here and what I want from it - perfect. Having just spent the last 90 minutes dragging myself round the park I have a huge grin on my face - certainly beats going to the gym for 90 minutes - but boy it's a bit of a handful at times. I guess it's a bit like having an RS125 and a GSXR600. And in the same way, you can keep your >3m GSXR1000 kites for the moment ;) [1] also did some surfing - badly. [2] not actually, second hand but looks perfect - £125 including new lines & handles, which is £175 off the price of a new one :) OB. bikes - I took the bike to buy it - it was an enjoyable ride through Reading which included a good look at some of the Reading festival totty.