OT but timely: Proxy voting

Some good things were done on those heady, early days, let's not
forget.

 

See I just can't buy that. Border line by UN rules and so called
International Law. Well look at many of the members of the UN, cunts
united, everything from Fascist/Communist to Islamic states. So I reckon
Britain and the USA are right to keep their own council.

 

My point has been that the UN said they could liberate Kuwait so they
did. The UN didn't say carry out a large scale invasion of Iraq but
they did and when they realised they were going to be condemned for it
and lose their Arab allies they stopped. Their presence in Iraq was as
illegal/legal as the second Gulf war.

 

Did that the other day: 85% LD, 15% green (and I didn't bother doing the
environment section).

Colour me not-in-the-slightest-bit-surprised.

 

Reading the policies on that site, you have to be pretty much a hardcore
political ignoramus to not be able to work out pretty easily which party
each set of policies comes from.

Which defeats the point at least a little.

 

Can I assume you watched the chancellors' debate a week or two ago?

Quite why Vince isn't the LD leader I really don't understand. I know
I'm living in a fantasy world but even a Menzies/Campbell tag-team would
(or, rather, should) be pretty much unstoppable.

 

Well if that's what you genuinely believe in terms of "arguing with me
being futile" I wonder why you bothered to respond at all. It's really
nice to be given absolutely no allowance or opportunity to possibly
surprise you with my views.

 

I am afraid I didn't. I glanced at some of the headlines afterwards.

Mr Cable is not the leader because he's a bit old and not terribly
photogenic. These appear to be the essential (and utterly vacuous)
criteria for choosing new party leaders these days.

I think he would make an interesting leader for the Lib Dems but there
is no prospect of it happening. I am completely unconvinced by Nick
Clegg whereas I could at least understand where both Charles Kennedy
and Menzies Campbell were coming from even if I didn't always agree
with their views.

 

So in that case, according to your way of thinking, when The allies
crossed the channel in June 1944 and forced German troops back through
France towards Berlin, they should have stopped at the German border
and gone no further? And after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed in
1945 the Americans had no right to step on Japanese soil after the
surrender?

Do you honestly think pushing Saddam Hussein's forces only as far as
the Iraq/Kuwait border would have done the job? I doubt you're that
daft, Andy, really.

 

I am too tbh. I don't have time to get involved in lengthy UKRM
debates[1] so I probably shouldn't have said anything, but sometimes
you see a point you just have to jump on.

You're being a bit precious there. Nobody's stopping you replying to my
points, & I'll read whatever you say. And if you surprise me, I'll let
you know; I just won't try to convince you you're wrong on the bits I
disagree with as that's where it gets futile.

Of course if you /really/ want to surprise me, just say you're going to
vote for whoever's most likely to beat Labour in your seat, even if
that's the Tory candidate[2]. Then send an ambulance round.


[1] I haven't even made the stats for the last two months ffs!
[2] Just in case you're thinking I'm a Tory-boy, I'm not. I've voted
for three different parties in the last five elections.

 

Bloody hell, is that all the choice you have? In about half of the
categories I was really struggling to find the 'least bad' of the
policies, in the absence of ones I'd actively support.

TBH, although some of them are fairly transparent, I don't think it
was that obvious throughout. Then again, I guess I, as a disintereted
non-UK resident, probably fall within your 'political ignoramus'
definition.

Not really. Unless people are more interested in skewing the overall
figures than answering the thing honestly.

FWIW my results surprised me. I hadn't realised that I was still such
a tory boy.

Green Party 11.11%
Conservatives 55.56%
Lib Dems 11.11%
Labour 22.22%

 

You guys know you can choose more than four categories, right?

 

Especially when you bear in mind that half the choices are single-issue
nutters - and two of 'em are the same single issue.

"Deport Imams". Hmm. Green, I think.

Swap LD for UKIP and that's the same results I got. Quite surprised - I
was expecting a fairly even mix of C & LD. Still, it's academic, since
we're in an archetypal "put a blue ribbon on a donkey, and it'd win"
constituency.

'erself was more than a little surprised to find that she managed to pick
the BNP for one category (not Immigration, fortunately). She may live it
down. One day. Not for a while yet.

 

I don't know anything about the Grenada exercise.

 

Oh yes. Sheer laziness and lack of a compelling interest in all of them.

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They could just exterminate all of the Arabs. In camps perhaps.

 

That's because you're a socialist, not because you're an
environmentalist.

 

Weird. It's blindingly obvious from here.

 

You think that's worse than siding with the UKIP?

 

I knew it'd be out there somewhere -
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/575/28/IMG/NR057528.
pdf?OpenElement

"Authorizes Member States co-operating with Kuwait ... to use all
necessary means ... to restore international peace and security in the
area".

Given the lobbing of scuds after retreat, I'd say going after them as
far as necessary to trash the republican guard was the only sensible
thing to do, & fully within the terms of the resolution.

It's a shame they didn't go the whole way then, rather than leaving the
Kurds up shit creek without a paddle.