OT deSORNing

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Leo, Aug 25, 2005.

  1. Leo

    Leo Guest

    Just a FOAKQ:

    There's a heap of rust pretending to be a car on my driveway.

    I need to get it back on the road.

    It needs tax, MOT, insurance and deSORNing. The question is, in what
    order?

    Tax and deSORN is presumably the same thing? I've trogged around the
    DVLA site for a bit and rung them, "Sorry all our 220 lines are busy
    at the moment..." (Are they bollocks - they're 'avin' a tea break) but
    can't find anything on deSORN, so I'm assuming all I have to do is
    take the SORN form to the post office when I want to tax it again?

    If that's the case, then I'll need an MOT before the tax, and also
    insurance.

    But how do I get an MOT without tax, and how do I insure something
    without an MOT?

    Is it just a case of having the paperwork on the car seat when you go
    for the MOT and hoping that the ONE time you're driving illegally you
    don't get pulled over, (but just knowing you will because of the
    guilty expression on your face) and doing a bit of fast talking?

    Shirley there must be some recognised way of doing this? Other people
    must have been in the same situation...
     
    Leo, Aug 25, 2005
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  2. Leo

    SteveH Guest

    You're allowed to drive a car on SORN to an MOT testing station.

    So, the order in which I do it is:

    Insurance, MOT, tax (which also de-SORNs it).

    Sometimes I can miss the insurance bit until I have an MOT, as I tend to
    put SORNed vehicles in Katie's name and drive them on my 'vehicle not
    owned by the insured' cover on my insurance.
     
    SteveH, Aug 25, 2005
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  3. Leo

    Krusty Guest

    Insurance, MoT, Tax.
    Have you ever seen an MoT tester look for a tax disk, or an insurance
    company ask for an MoT certificate?
    Millions of people - which is why you can legally drive to & from a
    pre-booked MoT test in an untaxed vehicle.
     
    Krusty, Aug 25, 2005
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  4. Leo

    Ben Blaney Guest

    MOT before tax. Insurance is irrelevant.
    You're allowed to ride it to a pre-booked MOT. You can't ride it back
    if it fails.
    By phoning the insurance company and giving them money. They don't
    care if it's got an MOT.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 25, 2005
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  5. Leo

    Leo Guest

    OK, ta.
    *That's* a good idea. Thanks.
     
    Leo, Aug 25, 2005
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  6. Leo

    SteveH Guest

    I believe the regulations allow you to take it there *and* back - so
    long as the failures don't make it dangerously unroadworthy.
     
    SteveH, Aug 25, 2005
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  7. Leo

    SteveH Guest

    Disclaimer: The legality of this is slightly dubious - I've seen various
    claims saying that other vehicle cover is only valid if there's a valid
    insurance on the vehicle, however, my policy doesn't actually say that.
     
    SteveH, Aug 25, 2005
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  8. Leo

    Leo Guest

    Ah-hah. I think "pre-booked" may be the one little thing that was
    stopping my brain from being happy. (Apart from the obvious of
    course)

    Ta for the info.
     
    Leo, Aug 25, 2005
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  9. Leo

    Krusty Guest

    It is quite an important "little thing" - make sure they note your reg
    no. when you book to be on the safe side. A copper might take your word
    for it, but the insurance company won't if you wipe out some kid on the
    way to the test - you have to think of the cunting children.
    NP.
     
    Krusty, Aug 25, 2005
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  10. Leo

    gazzafield Guest



    I've never seen this on my own certificates and if it is the case, it
    would make a lot of instances where people may need to drive it, pointless.
     
    gazzafield, Aug 25, 2005
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  11. Leo

    Ben Blaney Guest

    If I were you, I wouldn't put your car in Steve's wife's name.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 25, 2005
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  12. Leo

    CampinGazz Guest

    My mot tester keeps bollocking me for having my tax disc partly obscured by
    the windscreen wiper when it's in the park position, but he never makes me
    move it.

    Being in the middle of an insurance claim right now, i have been asked for
    my mot certificate by the insurance co.. also the car we hit's soliciters
    for whiplash are asking for it,
    they want it to prove (or disprove) the vehicle was roadworthy at the time
    of the rta, and if i can't produce one, i'll be giving them a valid reason
    to refuse the claim, (i have one btw, less than 2 months old, so that's them
    told to **** off, but they're now trying the 'was the vehicle kept in a good
    condition' thing to try and reduce the payout for repairs.
     
    CampinGazz, Aug 25, 2005
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  13. Leo

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Tell him to go and **** himself, it's nothing to do with him.

    In fact, I told a copper at the Dartford Tunnel to "**** off" when he
    bitched about the position of my tax disc. He should have made sure
    the barrier stayed down if he wanted me to show any (false) respect.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 25, 2005
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  14. Leo

    Krusty Guest

    I don't think he could make you move it even if he wanted to. You don't
    need tax to get an MoT, so it's got sod all to do with him.
    Well obviously they may ask for it during a claim, but that's got
    nothing to do with the OP's question.
     
    Krusty, Aug 25, 2005
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    mups Guest

    Krusty said...
    I got punted off my RD400 while going for an MOT after the bike had been
    off the road for 2 years and yes plod did check to see if it was pre-
    booked.

    I also explained the situation to the insurance co and after an
    engineers inspection they didn't have a problem with the fact it had no
    tax or MOT.
     
    mups, Aug 25, 2005
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  16. Leo

    frag Guest

    Leo scribbled:
    *ding* or the last tax/SORN demand.
    Book an MOT. Get that done. Get insurance. Get tax when you have the
    cover note.

    Probably not the right way to do things but thats what I did.
     
    frag, Aug 25, 2005
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  17. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Leo amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Insurance, so you can drive to to the MOT station, then get tax.
     
    Whinging Courier, Aug 25, 2005
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  18. Only to a _pre-arranged_ MoT test, n'est-ce pas?

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  19. Leo

    Leo Guest

    Good point, well made.

    I'm reconsidering.

    In fact, after due and fair consideration, I'll probably put it under
    Krusty's name, then try and hit as many children as I can on the way
    to the MOT.
     
    Leo, Aug 25, 2005
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  20. Leo

    mups Guest

    Zan (CBR1000F) - www.zanziba.prodigynet.co.uk/Pictures said...
    They did with me. As long as the bike's road worthy there should be no
    problems.
     
    mups, Aug 25, 2005
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