OT electric cars, where are the electric bikes?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Muck, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Muck

    Muck Guest

    Ok, so it can do 230 mph+ and has ok range.

    http://www.eliica.com/

    So, anyone got a fast electric bike up and running yet?
     
    Muck, Dec 28, 2005
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    sir tony Guest

    Muck
    Dec 28 said:



    Electric Cars takes hours to charge and you will have to take a ton of
    batteries with you(not very practical
    for a bike).
     
    sir tony, Dec 28, 2005
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  3. Muck

    Muck Guest

    That's a little off the mark these days, a Lithium based battery has now
    been developed by some big company that'll charge in minutes. Granted,
    it's not fitted to that car yet, but it'll come.
     
    Muck, Dec 28, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Muck, Dec 28, 2005
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    Monkey Guest

    That URL you posted actually shows an electric bike as well. No idea of the
    specs, as I can't speak Japanese.
     
    Monkey, Dec 28, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Yeh, spotted that.. didn't comment on it as I can't speak Japanese
    either. I got the inital info from this, which was in US English;

    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2004/11/8wheeling_with_.html
     
    Muck, Dec 28, 2005
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  7. That hydrogen-powered fuel-cell bike[]1] won some "award of the year"
    last week[2]. Interesting concept but the infrastructure is nowhere near
    ready yet. Methane- or methanol-powered fuel cells might be a better bet
    at this stage, despite extra technology problems.

    There was an electric drag-bike in one of the Scandinavian countries
    a couplle of years ago, too.

    [1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4353853.stm
    [2] http://www.intelligent-energy.com/index_article.asp?SecID=15&secondlevel=798

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    Barry Guest

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    Quite a feat of technology I bet .....though the benefits of popping up to
    the local takeaway at 120 miles per hour and having to walk back seem a bit
    limited?

    discuss

    B
     
    Barry, Dec 28, 2005
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  9. Muck

    Muck Guest

    That hydrogen mountain bike is a good idea, but it all needs scaling up
    to non moped levels. The infrastructure as you say is not ready for
    hydrogen, but I can see a viable lithium based battery bike on the cards
    when those fast charge cells hit the market.
    I remember something about that, yes. Doing a little google, I found
    http://www.nedra.com/ .
     
    Muck, Dec 28, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    Why does everybody with an electric car try to make it look like something
    out of a dodgy Thunderbirds remake? We're not going to save the planet with
    8-wheeled 250mph comedy concept cars with gullwing doors at the back.
     
    platypus, Dec 29, 2005
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    ginge Guest

    I very much doubt we'll save it with electric cars either.
     
    ginge, Dec 29, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    Of course not. Orgone accumulators and agrarian reform is the only way
    forward. I'm just having a rant about crap scifi styling and how it's
    irrelevant to the technology being demonstrated.
     
    platypus, Dec 29, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Well, fuel cells may be quiet and efficient, but the only way to burn
    hydrogen or methanol IMO is in a combustion chamber. Wivva piston.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 29, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    I wonder, have engineers got round the embrittlement problems on running
    with hydrogen yet?
     
    Muck, Dec 29, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    The only way we'll save the planet is to get off it and leave it alone,
    but there's not much chance of that happening. The styling, maybe it's
    got something to do with its high top speed?
     
    Muck, Dec 29, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Is there a problem? I know that hydrogen is not good for steel
    welding because of embrittlement caused by hydrogen inclusion, but
    it's used for aluminium welding without problems. Does prolonged
    exposure cause sufficient embrittlement to be a problem?
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 29, 2005
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  17. Muck

    Muck Guest

    Yeh, I thought it did. Although I haven't done any real research, only
    the stuff I've remembered in passing. If you ran a BMW bike on hydrogen,
    how long would it take for the valves to snap off? ;)
     
    Muck, Dec 29, 2005
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    sir tony Guest

    Muck
    Dec 28 2005 Said:

    I hear what you are saying, but there will never be en electric
    Fireblade. Electric bikes will now solve the
    pollution problems, it will just mean more Cole and nuclear fuel will
    have-be burned to generate the
    electricity for all those electric bikes(any electric bike with real
    performance will have to almost the same amount of electricity as an
    electric cooker).

    And another thing the oil company's are making over £1,million a day
    in the UK(I think the oil companies would do everything in its power to
    make sure the electric vehicles fail(because they want to keep making
    £1,million per day)).


    The only alternative is a more refined fuel, that will pollute the air
    less
     
    sir tony, Jan 10, 2006
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  19. <snip>
    I think someone has forgotten to change their posting name back to the real
    one from the frogging one....

    D'oh!

    Twat

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy\(Mobile\), Jan 10, 2006
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    Eiron Guest

    Real performance would be 100Kw or so.
    A supercooker with double oven is 10Kw or so.
     
    Eiron, Jan 10, 2006
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