OT & FOAK: Garage extensions...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Dan White, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. Dan White

    Dan White Guest

    Looking to buy a very nice house, but it's lacking a garage. There's more
    than enough room to the side of the house to fit a garage in, which could
    also be accessed by the current side door from the kitchen.

    However, I know less than **** all about this, so I turn once again to the
    perceived wisdom of UKRM for the answers to:

    1) Do I need planning permission for a garage, and is it likely to be a
    problem?
    2) Any idea of the building cost, for a brick built garage, long enough for
    a bike and hatchback car, to fit adjacent to the house? Electrics required
    inside. Naturally I would need to get a man in for the building work.

    TIA.
     
    Dan White, Jul 19, 2005
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    mups Guest

    Yes though a carport doesn't. Whether its likely to be a problem or not
    depends a lot on the neighbours. If any of them have a similar house and
    have had a garage built then you should be fine. If not then who knows.
     
    mups, Jul 19, 2005
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    Vass Guest

    Go to Travis Perkins with your dimensions, they will cost the whole job
    (Materials)
    then its just your labour to go on top.
     
    Vass, Jul 19, 2005
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    Banditfrenzy Guest

    I'd go for a brick built garage everytime, it will add its cost to the
    increased value of your house. Planning permission is a nightmare, don't
    go there unless you're prepared to spend the next few weeks attempting
    to decipher all the bumpf they'll throw at you.
    With regards to whether you'll actually get PP look around the
    neighbourhood at similar properties, if anyone has a garage it's highly
    likely they'll let you build. Off road parking is a priority for most
    LA's and they seem to be very lenient & flexible with regards to garages.

    Ask around the neighbours for a local & reliable builder and invite at
    least 3 of them around for tea, biscuits and an informal chat, a good
    builder should have an idea of what will be allowed. Expect to spend
    from £5k to £15k+ depending on your final spec.


    Banditfrenzy
    "My garage is my home"
     
    Banditfrenzy, Jul 19, 2005
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  5. Dan White

    Dan White Guest

    Hmm, good info, thanks for that.
     
    Dan White, Jul 19, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Not necessarily. I rang the planning dept informally and after outlining
    the situation, they just asked me to send a letter outlining the size and
    position. Sometime after I finished building it they sent me a letter
    saying I could commence work. ;-)
    You could consider getting a secondhand concrete sectional garage, then
    bunging a thin brick skin round the 2 outside walls. This would save you
    from disfiguring the original house structure, and give opportunies for
    insulation etc, as well as possibilities for saving costs by making it a
    feasible DIY job.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 19, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    Nice 40 foot steel shipping container £1000. Clad/not as appropriate.
    Job's a goodun!

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Jul 19, 2005
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  8. Dan White

    tallbloke Guest

    Hmmm, nice solid doors and no need for a cast base either.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 19, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Yes. I'm looking at extending mine, forwards. In my case it's not a
    problem, since non-one's light is affected, and indeed, from the front
    it doesn't matter how deep it.
    Like the other guy replied: 5K to 15K. The door is a big expense, and
    the labour required for the roof.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 19, 2005
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    Eddie Guest

    Is it wide enough to be usable for getting a car in, though?
     
    Eddie, Jul 19, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    Yes.
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    darsy Guest

    from memory, the door openings are about 2.3x2.3m
     
    darsy, Jul 19, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Hmmm. I'm not a builder, but I though the cost for a brick built
    garage with a tiled roof would be more like 30k nowadays.
     
    Champ, Jul 19, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    darsy, Jul 19, 2005
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    Banditfrenzy Guest

    The door that your builder will want to fit costs less than £120, it's
    made of thin gauge pressed steel (not unlike Alcan wrap) and if it
    doesn't buckle into a V shape the first time you use it, it will be
    destroyed by the first 3yr old to bump it when riding a plastic tractor.

    The door that you will want to fit costs more than £1500 and opens
    automatically at the touch of your keyfob when approaching from a great
    distance at high speed.

    The door that you MUST fit costs somewhere between those two and will,
    at least, lock in such a manner that large & heavy cutting tools are
    required to open it 'when' you lose the key.

    Don't skimp on the roof, it is the prefferred method of entry for most
    scumbags, if you go for a flat roof bear in mind that flat roofs leak,
    if the garage is attached to the house you might suffer an insurance
    premium hike.
     
    Banditfrenzy, Jul 19, 2005
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  16. Dan White

    'Hog Guest

    actually a great idea, see:

    http://www.royalwolf.co.uk/products.htm

    Easily and cheaply clad in timber panels to look nice but acceptable to
    vehicle insurance companies. They tend to have FO locking so your local
    tea leaf will have to bring flame/disc cutting gear.
    Arguable, as a portable unit, whether any planning permission is
    required.

    I'd quite like one that retracts underground with turf and folding trees
    on the roof.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Jul 19, 2005
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  17. Dan White

    Dan White Guest

    Not a false lake that opens up to reveal your rocket launch site then?
     
    Dan White, Jul 19, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    'Hog wrote:
    [shipping container garages]
    If I were buying a house with garage-space but no garage, I'd
    definitely be interested - the website URL I posted can customise them
    for windows, sidedoors, electricity, plumbing etc. - I think it'd be a
    hell of a lot less hassle than getting one built from wood and bricks
    and tiles etc.
    The Thunderbirds school of vehicle security. Would be especially nice
    if you had a cellar...
     
    darsy, Jul 19, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    Even better, buy a house sitting raised above the road, sloping garden
    type of thing. Hydraulic ramp entry, bingo, underground and overground
    parking.

    I shall consult Penelope.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Jul 19, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    I think I'll retrain as a garage builder.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 19, 2005
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