OT Funeral readings

au contraire. Someone made a comment about science, and you replied
with a quote about scientists. I maintain you've confused the two.

 

So it *was* a question. I thought you might mean, "Time is It."
Whoops more gratuitous capital letters.

The capital letter was a mere device to indicate that I wasn't talking
about "clock time."

So what is the great master clock of all elapsed time reading today then
- 13.7 billion years? I think we have touched on the cyclic universe
theory before, so perhaps that works for System Date & Time since last
reset (anthropically speaking).

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The more I read of stuff like this, the more impressed I am by the
accomplishment of Bill & Ted, who nailed it in a single sentence.

 

To truly appreciate instant noodles, you have to eat them out of a mess tin
on a benighted frozen hillside in Bavaria.

 

A clever dialectical manoeuvre on ginge's part, but you still don't
convince me.

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Well my comment was a touch tongue in cheek

But it is interesting - both as an intellectual exercise[1] to derive the
meaning from the words and as a source of material to think about.

Other cultures have very different ways of expressing the same
concepts - some of which were rooted in how the society worked (ie
"burning coals of fire upon his head" derives from the then habit of
giving hot coals to neighbours to relight their (gone out) fires and
these coals were held in a firepot on the persons head) and others are
just derived from external events ("Phyrric victory"). And it can be
fascinating to work out the original meanings of the concepts in order
to work out what the passage says (in the "coals of fire" example that
Biblical passage was seen as "send them to hell" rather than what was
originally meant "do your neighbour a good turn").

And having done that work you now have the framework to actually learn
what the concept relates to (ie "neighbourliness" or "vicories that
cost you more than you can afford") and can then construct other
concepts using those concepts. It's all like LISP really..

Phil.

 

"As it turns out David Harkins had written the piece in the early
eighties, though not as a funeral oration, but in homage to an
unrequited love."

Works for me.
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That came up in conversation last night. Ideals realised? I don't
think so.

 

Your comment only covers the first part.

The second part requires belief (mainly in that the person who added the
particular knowledge did their work properly) - unless of course you
are prepared to repeat their experiments.

Phil.

 

you have to imagine it uttered with a deeply sarcastic south african
accent.

the fact that you use the term "year" proves my point that we do measure
time. that we don't know when (or even if) the universe began according
to these measurements is of no consequence.

 

"Be excellent to each other!"

or

"Party on, Dudes!"?

 

I did. You may be thinking of Eccesiasticus which is a very different
thing.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/141100.html

Phil.

 

I was thinking "We were totally lied to by our album covers".

I could be paraphrasing slightly.

 

Likewise.

Phil.

 

We melted snow and ice to make hot beefy Bonwick.

 

"No-mind".

A great place to be and not one confined to Buddhism and Taoism. Of
course the Christian version has a slightly different rationale behind
it (and a different reason) but the end is the same. Loss of ego and
"self".

Phil.

 

The sarcasm came through loud and clear if the accent didn't.

An approximately solar year, as in "our solar system", seems a
particularly parochial unit to choose for the universe. Still, "man is
the measure of all things".

The fact that we don't know (or even if) the universe began according o
these measurements is, indeed, of no day to day consequence. Pretty
germane to this thread though, but only from my point of view,
naturally.

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ISTR there was an "and" in the middle, not an "or". Which would make it a
reasonable manifesto for perseverance in the face of life's vicissitudes.

 

"Oh no, evil robot us-es"