OT : Good XP Domain Admin book?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by frag, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. frag

    Krusty Guest

    It's only standard SQL if it's been coded as such - which would result
    in a crippled system.

    --
    Krusty.

    http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
    http://www.muddystuff.us
    Off-road classifieds

    '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger '79 Fantic 250
     
    Krusty, Nov 10, 2005
    #21
    1. Advertisements

  2. frag

    Ben Guest

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
    Ben, Nov 10, 2005
    #22
    1. Advertisements

  3. frag

    darsy Guest

    well, there is that.
    Oh, I thought we were talking about portability, not performance. Sure,
    if you want to tune the nuts off something, and can afford the app and
    DB developer time to do so then yes, SPs are the way to go.
    Sorta, kinda. I guess the thing with SPs is that they're OK if the
    person doing the porting from one RDBMS to another knows both well -
    also documentation is a Good Thnig.
     
    darsy, Nov 10, 2005
    #23
  4. frag

    Krusty Guest

    Personally I'd do RDBMS-specific stored procs, a standard front end
    with procedure calls, & a middle tier to convert those calls as
    required. But I always was an awkward sod.

    --
    Krusty.

    http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
    http://www.muddystuff.us
    Off-road classifieds

    '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger '79 Fantic 250
     
    Krusty, Nov 10, 2005
    #24
  5. frag

    dwb Guest

    But but but apparently they're all the same!
     
    dwb, Nov 10, 2005
    #25
  6. frag

    darsy Guest

    you're obviously old.
     
    darsy, Nov 10, 2005
    #26
  7. frag

    Krusty Guest

    Older than I used to be, for sure. But the systems I work on would be
    unusable without PL/T-SQL. Hence I've got my "it's very complex &
    performance is paramount" hat on.

    I blame frag - where's the bloody spec, hmmm?

    --
    Krusty.

    http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
    http://www.muddystuff.us
    Off-road classifieds

    '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger '79 Fantic 250
     
    Krusty, Nov 10, 2005
    #27
  8. frag

    simonk Guest

    On the plus side, there are so few databases worth bothering with, that
    coding for platform independence is something of a fool's errand.
     
    simonk, Nov 10, 2005
    #28
  9. frag

    MikeH Guest

    Do the railwaye use platform-independent stuff?
     
    MikeH, Nov 10, 2005
    #29
  10. frag

    simonk Guest

    Hmm, I'm not so sure. The statement-parsing overhead is eliminated if you
    use SPs, but most databases have some form of statement caching these days,
    and in any case the overhead is often very small compared with actually
    fetching the data/doing the update

    SPs are generally better from a security standpoint, though - and using them
    can lead to better SQL being written (mainly as a result of leaving the
    SQL-writing to database-type-people as opposed to Java/C# coders)
     
    simonk, Nov 10, 2005
    #30
  11. frag

    simonk Guest

    Or just use Hibernate and HQL ...
     
    simonk, Nov 10, 2005
    #31
  12. frag

    simonk Guest

    I think The Railways use Oracle[1]

    [1] a mate of mine is working on a project where a train drives round the
    entire railway network with video cameras looking in front, down at the
    track, and to the left and right. Still images are taken every few seconds
    and stored in a database along with the GPS coordinates. This is because
    Railtrack/SRA/whoever don't actually know where all their infrastructure is
    (or, indeed, what it is). It'd be a trainspotter's delight ...
     
    simonk, Nov 10, 2005
    #32
  13. frag

    Mups Guest

    It might have been Sweller, but I remember somebody telling me that BR
    couldn't locate some carriages they'd 'misplaced' and ended up having to
    ask the train spotting community if the knew where they were.
     
    Mups, Nov 10, 2005
    #33
  14. frag

    darsy Guest

    well, yeah. The app I was thinking of when I wrote the above is a J2EE
    app, which doesn't use EJBs, but does use Struts as a framework and
    Scaffold as a DB layer - everything but everything's nicely in the XML
    config files, and it's very easily extensible.
     
    darsy, Nov 10, 2005
    #34
  15. frag

    Steve Parry Guest


    http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-076450682X,subcat-NETWORKING.html


    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort


    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Nov 10, 2005
    #35
  16. <one man bandit>
    Servers? We ain't got no steenkin' servers.

    --

    Dave

    GS850 x2 XS650SE / SE 6a

    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 10, 2005
    #36
  17. frag

    frag Guest

    CT scribbled:
    Well they wanted a software engineer. And thats me.

    And there's no one else with IT knowledge there, so its me doing
    everything, s/e developer, IT network admin, management advisor...

    But it ain't paying anywhere *near* £200k!
     
    frag, Nov 10, 2005
    #37
  18. frag

    frag Guest

    MikeH scribbled:
    Fnar! But there's a tiny hint of truth in there :)
     
    frag, Nov 10, 2005
    #38
  19. frag

    frag Guest

    dwb scribbled:
    Well, I have extensive knowledge of setting up and administering linux.

    Its free. The current MS server only has a client limit of 10 and they
    need more. And its clapped out and a new server needs to be built.
     
    frag, Nov 10, 2005
    #39
  20. frag

    frag Guest

    Mups scribbled:
    Far from it. Cobbled together by someone who knows as much as I do.

    There's so many problems with them its going to take a while to sort
    out.
    Cause I can do it, know how, and the s/w and apps are free.
     
    frag, Nov 10, 2005
    #40
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.