OT Keeping her small

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Work in progress, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. Work in progress wrote

    Well, speaking as a mother...
     
    steve auvache, Jan 7, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    Timekeeping
    Grammatical adherence
    Booze consumption
    Temper
    Locator beacon
    Bedroom tidying
    Enthusiasm for chores and schedule adherence
    Musical taste

    I could go on.
     
    platypus, Jan 7, 2007
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    Ace Guest

    Sorry to disappoint. I'll try harder to conform to stereotype in
    future.

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    Ace, Jan 7, 2007
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  4. Has already, I think.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 7, 2007
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  5. Sofa Baby?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 7, 2007
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  6. Oh come on, that's not very aggressiversificationous.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 7, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    Work in progress says...
    The parents
     
    Lozzo, Jan 7, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:35:33 +0000, Work in progress

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    Being charitable I could say that her being small is a benefit for any
    carer but the whole package of what's been done just seems wrong in
    every way I look at it.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 7, 2007
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    Nige Guest

    Not just me then.
     
    Nige, Jan 7, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Nope. It wasn't the things they had done as much as the reasoning and
    the publicity which the parents could easily have shunned and thus
    avoided the poor child becoming looked on as a freak.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 7, 2007
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  11. I think you've just dinged me. I was trying to work out why I found it so
    squicky. And that would be why.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jan 7, 2007
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    Adrian Guest

    Dan White () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
    saying :
    Umm, yes, that was kinda my point...

    The kid's gone into foster care because the sheer stress of it all was too
    much for the parents' marriage - and the courts ruled that the care was far
    too much for either parent to cope alone.
     
    Adrian, Jan 7, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    Legs and arms. Remove 'em.

    Hmm.. anyone seen Boxing Helena? (I haven't)
     
    deadmail, Jan 7, 2007
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    porl Guest

    Bet it turns out to be better than the next Rocky.
     
    porl, Jan 8, 2007
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    porl Guest

    "What, you haven't hit your peak yet?" Is a great line though. What's
    the betting he goes up the library steps in a chair lift this time?
     
    porl, Jan 8, 2007
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    Ben Guest

    Actually, it's not too bad.
     
    Ben, Jan 8, 2007
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    drlove0378 Guest

    Best to rip her nails out, so she can't ever scratch herself.

    Not necessary at all. She wouldn't be able to scratch herself anyway
    -- she can't move. And as far as the surgeries and hormonal treatments
    go, they were appropriate in this case, to protect her health. I also
    thought it was just plain WRONG and BAD at first, but then I read the
    whole story -- all 9,000 words of her dad's blog post.


    She is currently 9 years old, but has the mind of a three-month old...
    and that's as good as she's ever going to get. She had her uterus and
    breast tissue removed, because her condition PRECLUDES the normal use
    of those organs -- she will never *voluntarily* bear children, and
    consequently, will never breastfeed.

    Her parents decided to keep her at 4' 05", because they WANTED to
    provide the hands-on care she'll always need. When somebody who was a
    *completely helpless* invalid from infancy, grows naturally and attains
    a normal "adult" weight, it becomes difficult (sometimes impossible) to
    give them the proper care -- necessitating placement in a nursing
    facility. Convenience of her parents will always be a side benefit, no
    matter what procedures are performed on her -- let's just get that out
    of the way now.

    But this "Ashley Treatment" is a two-edged sword, as it sets a
    dangerous precedent which opens the door to "eugenics" practices. If
    doctors approve, anyone with ANY kind of disability may be spayed or
    neutered on their parents' authority.

    I work with a man who's been deaf all his life, and is socially
    maladroit because his mother constantly "protected" him until she died,
    but he is otherwise able-bodied. Should he have had his nuts lopped
    off at birth, just because "he might never use them"?

    My mom has battled clinical depression all her life. Should she have
    been fixed like a female dog, so she could never have children?

    I was a troubled teen, branded with multiple DSM-IV call numbers, and
    my parents have bet the house that I'll never marry. Should I have had
    my testicles removed, for no other medical reason than to make me less
    ornery? Should I have been neutered, because I'll "probably never
    father a child anyway"?

    I can understand the decisions her parents made, given the
    circumstances. But the three examples I have just provided are why the
    Ashley Treatment should NOT become a "standard and routine" medical
    practice for people with disabilities.
     
    drlove0378, Jan 13, 2007
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  18. Probably, yes.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 14, 2007
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