OT Mobile phone masts

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  1. Nicknoxx

    Nicknoxx Guest

    I'm looking to buy a house with a mobile phone mast in the garden.
    It's about 50m from the house. There's loads of information on the net
    about the safety of these devices but most of it seems to be either
    scaremongering or reports from the telecoms industry saying there's no
    problem. There is a significant rental income from O2 and the contact
    lasts another 20 years.

    Would the FOAK buy the house?
     
    Nicknoxx, Dec 7, 2009
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    TOG@Toil Guest

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    Why not just erect a mast in your own garden?

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    TOG@Toil, Dec 7, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    Are you going to get a good signal? :)

    And have you considered the tax you'll pay on the rental?

    Personally though, I wouldn't have a mast in my garden, but that's just me
    as no-one is going to say that they definitely don't do any damage, just
    like no-one can prove that they do.


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    fishman Guest

    Not if I had young kids. Just like I wouldn't buy one that's beneath
    power lines.
     
    fishman, Dec 7, 2009
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    Jim Guest

    I live in the middle of nowhere - the only network we get is O2, and
    even that is at 1-2 bars strength. This means my mobile runs itself down
    in about 8 hours. When I try to make calls, I am holding a transmitter
    up to my head which is trying to call out at full power to the cell
    mast. This has far greater health implications than any radiation from
    the cell mast itself.

    I would enjoy the money and worry about something else.
     
    Jim, Dec 7, 2009
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    boots Guest

    Yep, the scaremongering is bollox[1], take the rental money. I'd have
    one in my garden for that given the chance, plus of course it would
    wind up the neighbours.

    [1] Consider TV transmitters, their often extremely high power output
    and locations.
     
    boots, Dec 7, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    Probably depending on how ugly, how much I wanted *that* house and what
    the income was.

    If I wanted to stay for 20 years, then almost certainly.

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    ginge Guest

    Perhaps if I could blow the mast up in a Tyler Durden Style.
     
    ginge, Dec 7, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Whine ot.
    Ignore the scaremongers, the mobile next to your ear puts more power
    into your brain than a mast even a few yards away.
    Just push the price down by claiming that the house is worth less
    with that contraption in the garden, the seller and/or agent will
    believe the crap and you get a bargain.
     
    crn, Dec 7, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    It *is* worth less. Most of the populace think that there's a risk. And
    it's almost certainly ugly.

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    Catman Guest

    High probability, maybe. I doubt there was a massive risk.

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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué
    Not everyone is logical. It might be more of a problem when you come to
    sell again.

    We used to get a few complaints about them in my 'white hat' days. Some
    folk claim that if you get close enough they can produce an audible
    noise sensation (at least from the old analogue systems). One of our
    EHOs did quite a lot of research on behalf of an old dear in a top
    storey flat right under one. We could never hear anything and went
    through the pantomime of using sophisticated (for the day) sound level
    meters to show there was no airborne noise. Which there wouldn't be as
    the alleged effect acts directly on the auditory system.
    Mr Carley may know more of such theories.

    At 50 metres, I wouldn't worry about it personally. Even the risk to
    children at that distance is far less than that posed by using a phone
    itself IMO.

    There again, nobody knew what a bastard blue asbestos was years ago
    because the symptoms took decades to appear.
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    Did he have a hearing aid?
     
    Dave Emerson, Dec 7, 2009
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    Catman Guest


    Ahhhh, sorry.
    Hmm, wouldn't like to start trying to quantify that :)


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    'Hog Guest

    and the radar systems around airports. Those must kill children by the
    hundreds

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    'Hog Guest

    Serious science conducted placebo tests with mobile phone transmitters
    recently. The results were quite amusing. And nobody could actually
    detect a damn thing and there were no measured symptoms.

    But you knew that anyway. The real decisions are about the effect on
    resale.

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    Doki Guest

    Radiation is covered by the inverse square law - as such, hoovering with the
    cable over your arm or holding a phone to your head is going to expose you
    to a hell of a lot more radiation than powerlines or a mast will. So I
    wouldn't worry about that.

    However, 50m is rather close for such a big ugly thing. Is the fan /
    transformer noise audible from the house? What access rights do O2 have for
    maintenance (normally there is an access at any time clause in the
    contract)? You'd probably be unable to put locked gates on your driveway if
    that's their access route. What are the winding up arrangements (5 years
    notice & full rent), or is it simply a fixed term contract?

    I've got a rough idea what the rent would be, and I'd probably go for it,
    provided your satisfied with the access arrangements etc. It'll shorten your
    mortgage considerably if you pay it straight in, or pay for your kids to go
    to uni. And of course, there will be a not inconsiderable windfall in terms
    of increased property value when and if they decide to get rid of the mast.
    I seem to remember reading that 3G technology is advancing and a far lower
    mast density will be required in the future, so that's a possibility.
     
    Doki, Dec 7, 2009
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    boots Guest

    No idea of Radar RF output, certainly analogue TV main transmitters
    are often 500Kw and occasionally 1Mw per channel for the 4 main
    channels usually less for C5.
     
    boots, Dec 7, 2009
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    boots Guest

    I see we've done my fan story
    http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/7053bc165a7c8598?
    which demonstrates the problems with mythical noise.
     
    boots, Dec 7, 2009
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    boots Guest

    Higher density surely, the current ~2GHz will require a lot more
    transmitters for the same coverage as 900MHz GSM.
     
    boots, Dec 7, 2009
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