OT Mobile phone masts

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nicknoxx, Dec 7, 2009.

  1. Nicknoxx

    Beav Guest

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    Beav, Dec 8, 2009
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    Beav Guest

     
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    boots Guest

    I reckon it's more likely that GSM licences will be extended as they
    try to milk some more money from something that's mostly already paid
    for.
    They still spending on it and now LTE, the biggest problem was the
    amount governments sold the licenses for.
     
    boots, Dec 8, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    Ha where is Burnt when you need him
     
    'Hog, Dec 8, 2009
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    Lozzo Guest

    I'm very happy with my Jabra SP-200. I decided I really don't get on
    with bluetooth earpieces, so went for something that clips to the sun
    visor.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 8, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    I cannot recommend the parrot too highly.

    SWMBO has a Sony head unit that has BT built in and seems to work just fine.

    I appear to be about to buy a new car, and will have one of these fitted
    to avoid the head unit + iPod control +parrot thing.


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    Cab Guest

    Possibly but GSM is old. It can't keep up with current communication
    technology.
    Quite [1], but WiFi systems are definitely the way forward and there are
    a few operators already looking at Mesh systems for example [2]. I see quite
    a few examples of towns, university campuses (or should that be campii), etc
    looking at Mesh systems too.

    It will happen but not in the decades that Hog is talking about. I reckon
    that operators will be forced to abandon stuff like UMTS and invest in
    cheaper, faster and more easily manageable systems.

    [1] with the UK being amongst the most expensive, IIRC.
    [2] WiFi coverage when in a Mesh zone, going over to GSM/GPRS when not, so
    they still make money.
     
    Cab, Dec 9, 2009
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    Cab Guest

    I don't think that is really a major problem today. Mesh covers that and
    there are already systems in place (military systems in the US for example)
    where handover isn't an issue for vehicles moving up to 600kph (it could be
    mph). The technology is already in place, it just needs to be improved from
    a cost side.
     
    Cab, Dec 9, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    Actually the correct technology for mobile data and IP voice is patented
    and made by a company in San Jose called Arraycom. It has been on trial
    in Belfast for several years. Vested interests have resisted the
    granting of UK wide bandwidth. It threatens to wash the entire 3G
    investment down the pan.

    You can drive through the Harbour Estates at 70mph watching streaming
    high quality internet video on your laptop.

    But, and it's a huge BUT, how do you affordably get 100 or 1000BaseT
    connectivity to thousands of Cell Sites all over cities and main
    transport routes. The answer is *you can't*. BT have you by the balls.

    Not so simple, is it.
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Not least because 1000baseT is completely the wrong technology for a
    geographically dispersed network.
     
    ogden, Dec 9, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    It was just an indication to folk of the bandwidth you might require.

    And in fact you do typically connent an Arraycom adaptive array antenna
    to 100meg Ethernet
    The transmission capacity of the base station was 20megs but that was
    being increased to 100.
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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    Cab Guest

    I understand what you're saying and I know that there has been fierce
    resitance by the operators but market forces will dictate otherwise. I
    don't believe that BT have the whole country by the balls.

    Current networks won't and can't cope. Already O2 in the UK has had
    problems and have had to improve their infrastructure to resolve
    issues. People need data today and quick. It's a must and this is why
    it will change sooner rather than later.
     
    Cab, Dec 9, 2009
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    Cab Guest

    I missed that bit.
     
    Cab, Dec 9, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    No? Try getting a private circuit with the B end outside, well, I'd like
    to say "any major metropolitan area" but in reality it's central London
    and the Isle of Dogs. Lo and behold, you're looking at a BT tail for the
    last mile or four hundred.
     
    ogden, Dec 9, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Nonsense. People want data. People think they need data. People could
    live quite happily without data if only they tried it once in a while.
     
    ogden, Dec 9, 2009
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    Cab Guest

    Yes, like we could all live without computers, phones, cars, the wheel,
    etc.

    Times move on. Wake up Granddad.
     
    Cab, Dec 9, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    I'd quite like less data actually.

    Given computers have made everything up to 70% more efficient we
    should all be working 10 hours a week right now, and not having to
    look at stuff that isn't leisure related.

    I want my fantastic wonderous future, damn it.
     
    ginge, Dec 9, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    As Oggy points out, I can assure you they have.

    Even if they did have to open up a Dark Fibre service or cheap long haul
    circuits there simply isn't the capacity (21st Century project or not)
    to feed 100M or a Gig uncontended to every Cellsite in Mainland UK.
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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    boots Guest

    I dealt a while back with an operation that had in order to get
    redundancy ordered circuits in pairs with one from BT and the other
    from whatever Mercury were called that week. Shame that Mercury not
    actually being able to supply had just bought from BT and then resold.
    Since there was no obvious link between the circuits there was no
    diverse routing.
     
    boots, Dec 9, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    Note I said *UK* wide.

    We did persuade the NI and RoI govmints and Offcom/Comreg to do
    something rather unique.
    www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=197947

    Made possible because NI had another major (low cost) Fibre
    infrastructure

    However I think since then, and it was always the risk, iBurst has been
    steamrollered by the 3G providers. Having the best ideas and the best
    technology doesn't make you the winner.

    So to Cab I say what you will get is what the Wireless and Terrestial
    telcos decide you deserve.

    Unless someone develops a chipset that allows instantaneous node to node
    particle transfer through subspace
    <stares sternly at Ivan>
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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