OT Mobile phone masts

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nicknoxx, Dec 7, 2009.

  1. Nicknoxx

    'Hog Guest

    ROFL

    BT will sell you very expensive Diverse Routing. Fibre coming into your
    building from different directions. Separate NTE's.

    Now if you aint smart enough to ask whether they eventually route
    through the same Exchange then you aint deserving of true resilience!!

    But even if you were worldly enough to ask and they provided in the
    quote *exactly* such a diverse routing commitment, you may find that a
    loss of service was the result of a fire in *one* Glasgow exchange.
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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  2. Nicknoxx

    ogden Guest

    Legend has it that even if your paths start off diversely routed, they
    may find their way through the same duct at some point in the future.
     
    ogden, Dec 9, 2009
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  3. Nicknoxx

    boots Guest

    Not sure what they do now but when I worked for them we would diverse
    route as much as possible without charging extra. Local ends were a
    different kettle of bananas mind.
    Customers that do find the cost of laying a fibre for their sole use
    from another exchange 10K away to be a tad on the prohibitive side.
    Shit happens.
     
    boots, Dec 9, 2009
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  4. Nicknoxx

    Cab Guest

    Okay, I'll concede that in the UK, this doesn't look like it's going to
    be done in the near future. France is miles ahead of the UK in this
    respect. For example, the nearest my phone line goes to a France
    Telecom line, is in the same exchange. Otherwise it's all over free.fr
    [1] lines. This applies to a number of other French ISPs too as they
    can now split off from using FT lines if they so wish (and a lot of
    them do).

    [1] I know that an ISP != a Telco.
     
    Cab, Dec 9, 2009
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  5. Nicknoxx

    'Hog Guest

    Oh indeed that too. Not always deception but lack of knowledge.

    Funny thing about those long haul circuit prices. A regulated service
    after all. But when a really big Global Services customer needs a multi
    meg or gig service, and there is a competitor, somehow BT can do it
    surprisingly cheaply.
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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  6. Nicknoxx

    'Hog Guest

    There is lots of non BT fibre in the UK and lost of unbundled exchanges
    but it's a patchwork jigsaw and mostly confined to large population
    centres.

    But the UK is diving towards being a very low ranking "developed"
    country so don't expect it to improve. We can't be seen to be doing
    better than some other bunch of cunts anywhere else in the world. It
    isn't fair after all.

    But we do better than the US National Power Grid so WGAF ;o)
     
    'Hog, Dec 9, 2009
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ginge
    "Fewer"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 9, 2009
    #67
  8. On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:05:50 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel

    [...]
    If you consider writing to UKRM to be a formal or scientific usage then
    yes,
    in colloquial usage "data" is uncountable.
     
    Leszek Karlik, Dec 9, 2009
    #68
  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Leszek Karlik
    WTF would you know? ;^)
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 9, 2009
    #69
  10. On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:43:50 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel

    [...]
    I spent five (OK, more like seven) years studying English (a fascinating,
    albeit slightly twisted language with a definite tendencies towards rape
    and pillage), I'd hate all this time to go to waste.

    Then again, I'm getting a distinct feeling of being whooshed. ;-)
     
    Leszek Karlik, Dec 9, 2009
    #70
  11. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Leszek Karlik
    <ding>

    (Translate *that*, you fucker!)
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 9, 2009
    #71
  12. Nicknoxx

    ginge Guest

    What was I thinking!

    I'm a quite likes some of fewer datas.
     
    ginge, Dec 9, 2009
    #72
  13. On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:00:16 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel

    [...]
    <dong> <the> <witch> <is> <dead> ? :)

    BTW, anybody seen the new SyFy "Alice" yet?
     
    Leszek Karlik, Dec 9, 2009
    #73
  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ginge
    *Much* more betterer.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 9, 2009
    #74
  15. Nicknoxx

    ogden Guest

    Kinda.

    The biggest non-BT fibre network in the UK is, iirc, the old Racal/BRT
    network that runs alongside the railway network. Owned by Global
    Crossing these days, I think.

    But that still leaves you with the problem of getting from the railway
    to the customer premises. No prizes for guessing who ends up providing
    the tail...
     
    ogden, Dec 9, 2009
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  16. Nicknoxx

    ogden Guest

    This is UKRM. It doesn't matter it's countable or not, it's still
    "fewer".

    Fucking newbie.
     
    ogden, Dec 9, 2009
    #76
  17. Nicknoxx

    'Hog Guest

    Exactly. Patchwork. Companies either dig or BT cleans them out. And unless
    you happen to be a registered Telco/ISP then digging up miles of highway is
    a bit "tricky".

    And yet BT manage to be less than stellar.
     
    'Hog, Dec 10, 2009
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  18. Nicknoxx

    ogden Guest

    Digging is expensive. Look how profitable the cable companies were
    around the turn of the decade.
     
    ogden, Dec 10, 2009
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  19. Nicknoxx

    Catman Guest

    Fewer datums ITYF

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    Catman, Dec 10, 2009
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  20. Nicknoxx

    ginge Guest

    Bollards.
     
    ginge, Dec 10, 2009
    #80
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