OT Sort of, it is about speeding

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mick Whittingham, Mar 2, 2010.


  1. I was in the US when the copper who led the murder inquiry (I think) was
    interviewed in the states. The said something along the lines of:

    Venables was just an impressionable boy a 'patsy' of Thompson, who was
    pure evil. He went on to say he had never seen that in a child
    (Thompson) so young.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Mar 3, 2010
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  2. A very good friend of mine (he was with me on a TOG trip to the Bol
    d'Or) gave a German friends name for a speeding offence when his bike
    had been photographed with a mobile camera set up in Kent. His bike, his
    leathers etc.

    Plod/CPS went apeshit. Threats of long terms in jail ,corrupting justice
    etc.

    The problem was it was his bike, it was his leathers, it was his German
    girlfriend riding it. She had borrowed it to visit her parents in
    Germany. Properly insured etc.

    Took a lot of sorting out.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Mar 3, 2010
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    I'm assuming this has already been done - it is genuinely impossible
    to identify the driver.
    Waste of money IMHO. I really can't imagine what advice a lawyer could
    give you other than one of you has to cough up to it.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 3, 2010
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    DozynSleepy, Mar 3, 2010
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    Adrian Guest

    Nah, that number says nothing about the number of law breakers - merely
    about the ones who get caught.
     
    Adrian, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    I resent the very suggestion that I'd ever hang around a Chippy
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    Back where he belongs.
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    Heh we had a little joint venture in RoI and had a little co-op deal. "One
    of us" passed a gatso in Somerset at eeek speed in a hire car. Plod doesn't
    usually bother sending tickets to NI but in this case they requested my
    attendance at County Court. I asked for the pictures and after checking
    referred them to a Dublin address. They went on to check with Avis who was
    insured. We had covered it on our company group policy, "Any driver with
    Director permission". So they went through the considerable hassle of
    asking PSNI to visit me in Holywood. PSNI were not amused to discover I'd
    already supplied the RoI address of the "driver" and assured me they would
    flame the Somerset mob.

    But they never did bother matey in the South.
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    Perhaps he just didn't accept being done for something he didn't feel
    is any sort of wrong...
     
    ginge, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    What a silly comment. Was anyone hurt or inconvenienced in the crime? bit
    of a litmus test that.

    I've also spoken to the victims mum Denise which somewhat coloured my
    attitude to the perpetrators treatment and release.
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    Catman Guest

    Nor does it present any information as to why they were breaking the law.

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    Catman, Mar 3, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    We don't know what the crime that sent him back inside was, do we?

    To quote the BBC news article "The ministry did not detail the nature
    of Venables' breach of his licence."
     
    ginge, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    <sigh>
    Who cares?
    He is back where an awful lot of people think he belongs

    One can't ever imagine how Mrs Bulger felt about the original crime, no
    point in trying, but I do know how much worse it made it for her when the
    fucks were released again.
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    I'm sure she was the very model of impartiality.
     
    ogden, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    Rather depends on the black and white issues of where you consider Justice
    should incorporate revenge and/or things which help the Victims' closure.
    Or indeed that the consequences for the Perps should be more influenced by
    the wishes of the Victims, if they exist. And whether Perps should be
    subject to a subset of the HRA 1998.

    But FFS lets not ever discuss all that here again ;o)
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    We are talking about sentencing not the Justice process of investigation and
    conviction.

    Sentencing is already "not blind" btw
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Quite. You're wrong on every single point, no question about it.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 3, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    Only in the opinion of a wooly old leftie like you.
    Not that I'm particularly comfortable sharing the opinions of the great
    unwashed masses, in principal, you understand.

    What either of us think will be irrelevant soon anyway. The Chinese have it
    down pat. Though I'd rather they resisted getting wooly about keeping
    atheism imposed from the centre. Hopefully just a blip around the Olympics.
     
    'Hog, Mar 3, 2010
  19. The utter cunts never (or rarely) apologise, all you get is a sullen
    missive saying no further action, with veiled threatening undertones.
    Mind you, I've had a magistrate apologise to me in court for the plod
    wasting my time over a stop.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 3, 2010
  20. Otoh, hand-written cover notes were perfectly routine in my police
    jurisdiction.
    What a handy thing that was.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 3, 2010
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