OT Yet another attempt to stop smoking.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lady Nina, Aug 20, 2008.

  1. Simplistic bollocks for a happier Britain.
    Trouble with all this Power Of Positive Thinking malarkey is mostly it's
    neither positive nor thinking very much.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    "It's a moron working with power tools.
    How much more suspenseful can you get?"
    - House
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 22, 2008
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  2. Lady Nina

    Ace Guest

    Naming a key, or a given note, has nothing to do with tone-deafness,
    or lack of. It's very, very definitely a learned skill - there must be
    an innate ability, but the naming is putting a learned label on that
    skill.
    S'funny, but I don't "think" at all. It's just, well, obvious. If it's
    a guitar tune I can hear the chord progression and from the strings
    being intoned, assuming a standard tuning and fingering, can pretty
    much identify the chords. But if you put a capo on, or tuned it down a
    tone, I'd not have a clue unless I had a benchmark tone to compare
    with.


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    Ace, Aug 22, 2008
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  3. Lady Nina

    Pip Guest

    Actually, that's wrong. Whether the drain is on your property or not
    is irrelevant - the salient point is whether you connect to the drain.
    If you do use the drain and it is defective, then you will be partly
    liable for the costs of maintenance and repairs, jointly with any
    other people also using the drain.

    I'd be on to my house insurance provider, too.

    This assumes that the drain hasn't been adopted by the council, isn't
    a public sewer and wasn't constructed before 1936, in which case
    repairs come out of the public purse. Location is not important -
    trust me on this one.
     
    Pip, Aug 23, 2008
  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
    <G>

    You know that bit where it says "There's an expert on *everything* in
    UKRM"?

    God, I love this place.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Aug 23, 2008
  5. Lady Nina

    Pip Guest

    heh. Mate of mine lived in a flat in Aylesbury, the balcony
    overlooked a block of garages used by another bunch of flats. There
    was a drummer-in-training in one of the garages, who had obviously
    been summarily ejected from his domicile for being so crap. For weeks
    and weeks we could hear half-rolls and dodgy diddles coming from the
    garage, punctuated from time to time by sudden silences, rattles of
    sticks hitting concrete and inadvertent rimshots.

    High-pitched cries of pain were not uncommon and neither were odd
    percussive cracks and rattles, as of stick(s) contacting garage door.
    It was a little intrusive, but never lasted more than 10 minutes at a
    stretch, which was apparently the proto-percussionist's attention
    span.
     
    Pip, Aug 23, 2008
  6. Singing's a bit of a special case - as can be heard every time some
    tuneless **** wins a talent show simply because the 'judges' don't know
    what a properly sung note sounds like.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    "It's a moron working with power tools.
    How much more suspenseful can you get?"
    - House
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 23, 2008
  7. Lady Nina

    Pip Guest

    I watched a programme on Robert Johnson, featuring Eric Clapton
    playing Johnson's music, It was most amusing and enlightening to hear
    Clapton being puzzled as to how Johnson managed to play what he did -
    "The first time I heard it I assumed it was two guitars (being played
    by two people) then I was told he was solo. I couldn't understand
    how". Ten years later, he can approximate the method, but only on a
    good day.

    Very self-effacing chap, Mr Clapton.
     
    Pip, Aug 23, 2008
  8. Lady Nina

    Eiron Guest

    He seems to manage alright on this:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sessions-Ro...=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1219450636&sr=8-5
     
    Eiron, Aug 23, 2008
  9. Lady Nina

    Lozzo Guest


    Its that crm bloke, isn't it?
    You're a sick man
     
    Lozzo, Aug 23, 2008
  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
    Not in this reality, bucko.
    "I'm sick, me".
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Aug 23, 2008
  11. Lady Nina

    Lozzo Guest

    A child will mimick actions from birth; simple things like the
    clenching of a fist etc. It's a shame that in later life they don't
    learn to shut the **** up when everyone else has
     
    Lozzo, Aug 23, 2008
  12. Lady Nina

    Pip Guest

    This album was the inspiration for the programme, or perhaps the
    programme was publicity for the album ... oh, it's a DVD as well, and
    from the description I watched an hour from the DVD on the telly.
    Anyway, the ten years referred to was prolly twenty years ago, iyswim.

    If you have the DVD (and it is what I watched) then you'll see the
    false starts EC makes. He almost idolises RJ, his music (and the
    methods he used to produce it) and the influence he had, not least to
    inspire EC.

    I just thought it was, err, gratifying in a way that a guitarist of
    Clapton's stature would struggle to reproduce techniques - or at
    least, struggle to reproduce the sound that RJ had, using every
    technique that EC has at his fingertips (and that's prolly quite a
    lot) - and that EC happily admits it.
     
    Pip, Aug 23, 2008
  13. Lady Nina

    Pip Guest

    Yeah, and just my luck to get the shitty end, right? I used to get
    paid to a) know and explain this stuff b) sort this stuff out c) get
    peolple to pay for sorting this stuff out.

    [I wouldn't have got away with typos like the one above then -
    referring to 1936 when I meant 1937 (specifically 1st October 1937)
    would deffo constitute an 'informality, defect or error' and render my
    Notice invalid.]
    Take an infinite number of fuckwits, shut them in a virtual room and
    make them discuss stuff. Sooner or later, they'll get something
    almost right.
     
    Pip, Aug 23, 2008
  14. It's as simple or as complicated as you want to make it. To give up, at
    some point you have to have smoked your last cigarette, and after that
    instant you are a non-smoker whether you choose to acknowledge the
    fact, or allow yourself to recognise it at the time, or not.
    Some people certainly seem to find a victim mentality easier. It's
    certainly easier when you fail -- as least it's not your fault then, eh?
     
    Slower Than You, Aug 23, 2008
  15. Yeah, well **** you both, too. You pair of syphilitic cunts.
     
    Slower Than You, Aug 23, 2008
  16. Lady Nina

    Catman Guest

    I was thinking exactly the same thing. Incredible.

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    Catman, Aug 23, 2008
  17. What he said. The mains drain that runs behind the houses in our street
    is the responsibility of Thames Water (the houses were built in the
    1920s).

    Our drain that links to this has recently gone phut, and is causing some
    slight cracking to the corner of the house as the ground softens.

    Insco informed, surveyors and drain bods sent, drain tested, yes, it
    needs to be replaced, yes you're insured, yes that includes propping up
    the sagging corner of the Chateau. Only slight bummer is the £1000
    excess as it's classed as a subsidence claim.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 23, 2008
  18. It truly is the FOAK.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 23, 2008
  19. I started smoking cigars (sometimes inhaling, which probably wasn't
    wise) aged 16 and smoked them for the next 15 years or so. Gave up as a
    New Year' resolution, 20 years ago, and to my surprise found it easy. No
    cravings, no pangs, no nothing.

    I'd like to say it was because of my incredible willpower, but I'm crap
    at that, so I always assumed that it was because cigars lacked the
    addictive ingredient of nicotine (or whatever it is).

    Then someone else said what you've just said: some people just don't get
    the withdrawal pangs.

    If you know more about this than I do (which seems to be the case), I'd
    love to know which is true. Are cigars addictive or did I just get
    lucky?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 23, 2008
  20. Lady Nina

    Lozzo Guest

    I'm the opposite. It was incredibly easy for me to give up my heavy
    drinking - I just stopped and felt no compulsion to start again. Ok, so
    I have the odd infrequent drink nowadays, but I was a regular heavy
    drinker of vodka to the extent that a litre in an evening wouldn't
    render me out of it.

    Giving up smoking is difficult for me though, and I've been trying now
    and then for the last 20 years. My daily intake is only about 5 or 6
    roll-ups a day now from 40 B+H ten years ago, but I just can't manage
    to break the habit.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 23, 2008
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