Out of hibernation

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. Fired up the Ducati for the first time since, erm, late November, I
    think (needed the plugs heating up to get it to fire). Let it run for 10
    minutes on idle and then took it for a blast and fuelled it up.

    Fired up the 400 Four (last used that just before Christmas, so it
    started easily enough) and set it on a fast idle for 15-20 minutes. All
    reeady to go.

    The K is with Brian Giles for a full overhaul (valves, FI check, new
    head races, all fluids and filters, etc etc). That'll be the thick end
    of £700, I reckon, but it's the first bill in two years.

    Now, roll on spring and summer.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 21, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Ah, so it was you who's preventing my RT from being serviced until next
    week...
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 21, 2009
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    SteveH Guest

    Mine, surprisingly, fired up OK. But the choke cable was a bit sticky,
    so the first 40 miles were accompanied by rough running around the
    mid-range and back firing when coming back onto the power on the exit of
    bends.

    Seems to be OK now, but I'll be happier once it has had a service.

    When are you thinking of taking yours in? - so we can get them done
    together. I need to book 4 days holiday before the end of March - which
    would be a convenient time to do it.
     
    SteveH, Feb 21, 2009
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    Ah, forgot about that. I'm away for two weeks from 13 March, so you're
    looking at early April, really.
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 21, 2009
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    I've got his loaner R1100R at the moment. That is *easily* the nicest
    1100cc oilhead I've ridden. I never got on with Niall's GS, and Brian
    had an RS last time, and I thought that was dreadful. But the naked R
    is just a really nice working bike.
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 21, 2009
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    SteveH Guest

    Hmmm, OK.

    Need to work out how to do this without costing me too much holiday
    time, as we're not allowed to carry anything over from one year to the
    next.
     
    SteveH, Feb 21, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Yup, that is a nice bike and very usable with the screen he's got on
    there. I like that one. Really don't like the RS, though.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 21, 2009
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    Kiran Guest


    Are ther no Ducati dealers in Wales? [1] Any why do you need to get them
    done togetether?

    [1] Hmm, not many. Ducati Bristol have a terrible rep for service.
     
    Kiran, Feb 21, 2009
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    SteveH Guest

    There's one in Wales - all the way down in Haverfordwest [1] - and yes,
    the Bristol dealer is shite and expensive.

    The plan was to ride to TOG's, load the bikes on his trailer, and get
    them both done at the same time, as they both pretty much need the same
    service - and he has a trusted indie down there.
     
    SteveH, Feb 21, 2009
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    SteveH Guest

    Footnote:

    [1] Vince's mother works there, so that's a pretty good reason to avoid
    them ;-)
     
    SteveH, Feb 21, 2009
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    platypus Guest

    The 1100 was a fine bike. The 1150 would have been even better if they
    hadn't stuck Evo brakes on it.

    And I continue to despise BMW's recent indicator controls.
     
    platypus, Feb 21, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Well, my score on Evo brakes is 1 for, 1 against so far. The ones on the
    RT are fine, work OK and haven't caused me any trouble, whereas the ones
    on the GSA had me visit the dealer in Chur several times while I was on
    holiday out there.

    Given that the GSA had been maintained by a main dealer for most of the
    time I had it (and I had to shout at them every time I they worked on
    the bike for fucking up something) and the RT has been maintained by
    Brian Giles for quite a while even before I got it, I would think a lot
    of the problems can be attributed to non-application of rigorous
    maintenance. But I still think it's a ridiculously overcomplicated
    system for a normal bike.
    You get used to them. What annoys me is the third button - even Hardley
    with their similar system manages with two...
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 21, 2009
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    platypus Guest

    The brakes on my brother's R1150R are more off-on than a classic Citroen's.
    David has has the bike for about 7 years, and still doesn't like them. The
    ABS is now on its 3rd pump, despite seeing a total of 30 seconds' activation
    over the lifetime of the bike. The CAN'tbus wiring makes it extremely
    difficult to convert the bike to conventional operation.
    To activate the things, you have to reach underneath the switch blocks. To
    switch them off, you have to reach underneath the switch block with your
    throttle hand. I wrestled with these miserable contrivances all the way to
    Bavaria and back, and found considerable difficulty in avoiding unwanted
    changes in pitch, roll, yaw and velocity. Anything that causes that sort of
    increase in cockpit workload is a major safety issue IMO.
     
    platypus, Feb 21, 2009
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    Maybe you mean "because of"?

    Wisdom among the Pan-isti was (IIRC) to ensure the ABS kicked in
    regularly to maintain pump life.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 22, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    That's a bit odd. I've never found that with the Evo brakes. Yes, the
    rear brake is a bit sensitive on the RT but not 'on/off'.
    Now that's not good. That said, if it's got the Evo brakes then it'll
    have the electric brake booster which IIRC is part of the ABS unit (well
    the other way around). So the pump is working all the time anyway.

    I assume that he has strictly followed the maintenance schedule for the
    yearly services because if he hasn't and the pump breaks because it's
    been contamined by old (not even dirty fluid), that'll be the
    problem. I'm not defending the fact that you really, really have to
    change the brake fluid on schedule on these and that the schedule is
    quite short but that's a known issue.
    Your brother must have a previously unknown factory prototype because
    none of the 1150s I know of had Canbus. That was introduced with the
    1200s...
    Hmm. I guess you must have smaller hands than me then. I don't have the
    problem of 'wrestling' with the controls and I don't really find the
    indicator buttons that inconveniently placed. The horn button, on the
    other hand...
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 22, 2009
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    wessie Guest

    It took me a few months to train my right thumb to hit the cancel button
    without impacting on other operations, such as throttle control. Now, I
    find the Jap style 3-way switch counter-intuitive.

    I have the same problem with the horn. I don't use it enough for the action
    to have become intuitive. People don't seem to respond in the manner
    intended when subjected to a fierce rebuke with the left indicator.
     
    wessie, Feb 22, 2009
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  17. Agree 100%. Once you get used to the BMW indicators, you just do the
    slightest twitch of a thumb and they work. Ergonomically, taking into
    account the plane in which the thumb works, they're superb.

    ISTR my old airhead 100RS had an indicator switch that worked in the
    vertical plane, as well.

    However, having a third button to cancel them is just daft and I'm with
    you all the way about the horn button. I *never* manage to hit it in an
    emergency.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 22, 2009
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