P plate training ...not

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by alxr, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    [applause]
    But you've got red ones pushing you from behind and EVERYONE knows red ones
    are faster!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
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  2. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Get fucked!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
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  3. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Oh is THAT what they mean when someone whispers to you that other blokes cox
    have been sneaking around cutting your grass!
    I dunno what I was worried about!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    I don't know, but I will be in between rotations, and it looks like I'll be
    OK.
    Thems better not be pretend words ya city livin' auto drivin' nancy boy,
    weako shouldero.

    Will Rhonda be able to carry you Charlie and the scope?

    Hammo (with extra extinguishers for the BBQ)

    ....and it's all about me, whilst I spread disinformation...
     
    Hammo, Feb 8, 2007
  5. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I'd reckon that the trip computer doesn't even HAVE a flow-meter! (Or at
    least doesn't have one that measures flow that accurately)
    I reckon it just measures the RPM and throttle position (and maybe 10 other
    inputs) and gives you the pre-calculated result.
    I can't really believe that anyone at Holden thought that having the
    litres-per-hour readout absolutely-accurate would be anything worth spending
    any money/time/effort on.
    But then I'm a natural sceptic.
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    Goes to insert joke (and thinks better of it).

    Hammo

    ....it's all about me!!
     
    Hammo, Feb 8, 2007
  7. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Hey Nev; what's it do when the air is switched on?
    Does the idle drop or stay the same?
    Of course aircon is a much larger load than just headlights but it might
    indicate if your engine computer is automatically compensating or not.
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
  8. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Sheesh GB; what are you a Hammo virgin?
    He didn't say the battery got charged up; just that he ran the headlights
    for 10 minutes and used no fuel!
    (The battery will get charged up tomorrow when he runs the engine!)
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    .....no-one expects a Spanish inquisition, in fact those that do......

    ...and waste suggests that someone has determined the amount, and attributed
    it to being something that is significant. Plus there are situations where
    it is bollocks.

    Cos it's all about ME! (and Dale is getting sooky).

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 8, 2007
  10. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    No; it actuates the injector the exact amount that it's been told to for the
    conditions it's measured.
    It then displays the exact mpg (L/Hr, Km per kilojoule or whatever) that's
    it's been told to display too.

    But it doesn't have any idea what a litre actually is and it certainly
    doean't have any ability to actually measure one!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 8, 2007
  11. alxr

    Hammo Guest

    Yeah, what a nong!

    Actually, I'm gonna use solar power!

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 8, 2007
  12. alxr

    Hammo Guest

    Eh?

    It's measured, but it can't measure?

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 8, 2007
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    atec Guest

    Now thats wrong in so many ways .
     
    atec, Feb 8, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    You're the one who suggested the people should go out to their garage
    and perform the experiment for themselves with their cars. :)

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 8, 2007
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    Dale Porter Guest

    That it has been attributed to being something that is significant was merely your assumption.

    Equally there are situations where it is not bollocks and where quantity is irrelevant, no matter how much you throw a tanty, stamp
    your feet and proclaim it to be so..
    I must have hit a nerve there if you've resorted to dragging it throughout the thread. You still haven't cottoned on to intentions
    and what I was on about in the first place with that comment. C'mon Hammo, it's obvious if you think about it. Keep trying.

    Maybe I should have given you a smiley face to help you.
     
    Dale Porter, Feb 8, 2007
  16. No no no! You need blue paint at the back, and red paint at the front.
    Blue light has more energy than red, so the blue light reflecting
    backwards would push you forward faster than the red light reflecting
    from the front could push you back. Sheesh!
    ---
    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]


    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
    # 37181
     
    Peter Cremasco, Feb 8, 2007
  17. Strangely enough, the Camira engine speed increases when the a/c is
    switched on. I think that's the ECU overcompensating for the extra load,
    though.
    ---
    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]


    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
    # 37181
     
    Peter Cremasco, Feb 8, 2007
  18. alxr

    Dale Porter Guest

    That would be due to the air-con compressor not being driven by the engine, more the other way around. It starts up and runs at a
    higher speed than the engine does at idle.
     
    Dale Porter, Feb 8, 2007
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    Boxer Guest


    Trip computer Clem, if you are really worried about fuel consumption don't
    buy a V8.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Feb 8, 2007
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    sharkey Guest

    That's what I mean by 'injector open time' ... the length of the pulse.
    Sum that up over each pulse. Multiply the whole this by the injectors'
    flow rate and the number of injectors and bingo! There's your fuel
    flow.

    The fudge factor is because a given injector takes a certain time to
    open after the pulse starts and a certain time to close after the pulse
    stops, and they're not always quite equal.

    The first term is often constantish too, because the fuel rail
    pressure is often regulated relative to the inlet manifold pressure.

    Actually, you could get relative fuel flow rate just by snooping on
    the injector timing, although since closed-loop EFIs wander around
    stoich you'd have to average it over a lot of pulses to get anything
    meaningful out.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Feb 8, 2007
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