P plate training ...not

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by alxr, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. alxr

    jlittler Guest

    I think that translates as I'm too stupid to think for myself, n'est
    ce pas ?
    Ya gotta love a guy who makes a statement to which the only answer is
    "yeah but"...<pause> actually no you don't.

    Yes, load is load, it's measured in work done, hence why I put the
    bits in brackets about how it was measured (that'd be that torque
    thingy). But Andrew seemed to be differentiating between two different
    types of work (he later said things that make me doubt he had a clue,
    but that's a different discussion) the actual statement he made is
    (pedantically) correct.

    There's work to turn the metal things in the alternator around- that
    load is a constant, it doesn't change regardless of the electrickery.

    Then there's the electrickery, the EMF is going to create a different
    load depending on the watts being consumed by dint of how much
    electrical load is attached.

    Add the two together and you get the total one is variable, one is
    constant. Not difficult really.
    Well i wasn't drunk but I don't know what the latter bit means so I
    can't comment, it's obviously intended to be pejorative so I guess the
    obvious reply is "gefuggedyastupidkuntgetabigblackdogupya"

    JL
     
    jlittler, Feb 9, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    Nah mate, it's a Camira :)

    Nev.. (I think you were whooshed)
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    I'm not surprised that YOU are having this discussion John, but I'm
    absolutely STUNNED that you're having it with a poster who display about
    half the mental capacity of an overripe marrow!

    C'mon; do you reeeeeealy reckon he's following you here?
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
  4. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Errmmm..... [shuffles guiltily]
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    Eh?

    It's measured but it doesn't measure?

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Well you're wrong but the engine won't stall.
    The lights will glow extremely dimly for a very short time and then either
    the fan-belt will slip or the alternator/regulator will cease to function
    (and let the magic smoke out).

    Couple Nev's car engine to a several-thousand KVA alternator and try it
    though and the engine will stop (or automatically up-power itself to cope).
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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    atec Guest

    One thing worth bearing and I think you would find it so is the gennys
    efficiency imporoves to a certain point with a partial load , although
    load the crap outa it and thats all over/.
     
    atec, Feb 9, 2007
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    Dale Porter Guest

    Acuracy in a Holden Commode? This is the same car manufacturer that produced cars that said there was ~70 kms worth of fuel
    remaining as the car ground to a halt out of fuel.
     
    Dale Porter, Feb 9, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    I've got 65000km worth of fuel receipts to back that up. Maybe you can
    do better :)

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 9, 2007
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    atec Guest

    It is too.
    it might not have swinging arms in the physical sence but at a base
    electronic level there is still a little robot screaming Danger Dr Smiff

    when the maf sensor sends a signal/
     
    atec, Feb 9, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    I am amazed that it is 10 percent of its "total max output".
    No, don't agree with you there. Look at JL and Andrew McKenna's post.
    Oh, this the imperious and grandiose-BigI persona now?

    I find it amusing that you ignore the essence of the conversion of
    mechanical to electrical energy, yet you'll explain how an alternator will
    work!

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 9, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    It's all about him, anyway, he just likes the laughs (oh and the sooks).

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 9, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    Will I need to use synthetic or mineral oil?

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 9, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    That is exactly what I am asking you to do!!

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    I reckon a test would be if it can tell the difference between air-con on
    and aircon off.
    If it can't tell the difference then it's never gonna' see headlights.
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Holy **** Hammo; did Andrew McKenna's post actually make sense to you?!!?
    Can you translate all that "...you need to push harder ...it cannot possibly
    get harder..." stuff into sense please?
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    [shrug] It doesn't.
    It just displays a number that you either do or don't choose to believe.
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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    atec Guest

    the load does change in response to demand and thats the point , see
    bicycle riding .
    which means the mechanical force required to maaintain the rotations
    speed alters in response ( think bicycle pedals )
    now you are being impolite , google machinations and you will
    understand , se not machinery of the mind . ok ?
     
    atec, Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    No; YOU are trying to pretend that an amount needs to be determined.
    Waste just means "consume uselessly"
    (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/waste) and it doesn't matter if it's
    a poofteenth of a fraction of a bees-dick per millennium; wasted is wasted.
    It's either none or not-none!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    No need to cro about it!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 9, 2007
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