P plate training ...not

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by alxr, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. alxr

    Mad-Biker Guest

    much like air conditioning, the alternator still turns over at a constant
    rate no matter how much power your draining!


     
    Mad-Biker, Feb 6, 2007
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  2. alxr

    Mad-Biker Guest

    <Me> watches the P platers go through thecertified highspeed drivers check
    list.

    tyres including valve cap tightness, air pressure, tread, check (apparently
    if the valve caps arnt on, a tyre can suck in the valve stem and cause a
    blow out under extreme highload according to instructors?!)
    engine oils, fluids, check
    Belt tension, Check
    Battery Fluid, Check
    Lights, blinkers, red and blue's, siren (providing you stuff it with a rag),
    Check
    External check of vehicle for damage.
    Get in vehicle,
    Seatbelts, position, check
    Adjust mirrors check,
    windows up, door locked for added safety in a roll over, check.

    start motor, all warning lights off, check
    put vehicle into neutral, check handbrake, check,
    place in gear, slowly release foot break to double check handbreak, check,

    take off ensuring the radio is low so you can hear any mechanical noises!
     
    Mad-Biker, Feb 6, 2007
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  3. alxr

    Mad-Biker Guest

    you arnt allowed to have your driving lights on in a built up area unless
    faced with reduced visibility, rain, sleet, fog!

    you can ban driving lights, you obviously live in the city area!

    Apps for Cross Post to feed the trolls!
     
    Mad-Biker, Feb 6, 2007
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    atec77 Guest

    I constantly wonder why the local coppers ignore it , perhaps they are
    to intent on dnouts or knocking off ?
     
    atec77, Feb 6, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yeah; I've heard those words before.........
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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  6. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    That's quite UN-like car airconditioning which has uses an electric clutch
    to engage and disengage the compressor from the pully!
    Car alternators and older large-bike alternators use a brush to power the
    electromagnetic rotor.
    The more power into the rotor, the stronger the magnetism and therefore the
    more power out. The downside is that they're more expensive to manufacture
    and the brush wears out.
    The new ones use permanent magnets so they run flat-out all the time. The
    downside is they take more energy from the engine and turn all the unneeded
    output into heat.

    Older small-bike alternators generally just open-circuited one or two of the
    three alternator phases thus having a crude three-step output which was fine
    when you only needed power to run; not START the engine!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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    Boxer Guest

    I will be going if I get there.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Feb 6, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    [boggle] I've never hear THAT one!!
    --
    Clem

    "If I don't answer you, it's because I believe my point has been made in the
    current post or others on the subject or that the points of argument
    presented are illogical." ..... Toosmoky
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    It's a Hammo question. What do you think?

    Theo
    Also confused about getting 110 watts of light with no power input.
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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  10. alxr

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Terrible! Does that work for the air-conditioner as well?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Lies down in the gutter until partially sober and then staggers home?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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  12. alxr

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I think the centripetal force sucks it in to the centre.

    Theo
    New to me too.
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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  13. alxr

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    In WA, $200 fine if fog-lights on when no fog, $400 if on in conjunction
    with headlights.
    Enforcement - nil. Compliance - nil.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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  14. alxr

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    You aren't (in WA) allowed to have your driving lights on in a built-up
    area, period.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    Exactly the same if the air conditioner is an alternator. I know stuff
    all about electrics, which is probably obvious.. but if the moving parts
    of the alternator are in constant motion which is determined by the
    crankshaft, and is producing a supply of electricity, and the current
    produced is drawn on my the engine electrics, other electrics, whatever
    is left is stored in the battery, and whatever is left over after that
    disappears into void, and the load on the crank of the moving parts of
    the alternator is constant, how does adding more load to the alternator
    output increase the physical load on the crank and increase fuel
    consumption?

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 6, 2007
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    atec77 Guest

    The amount of demand varies with consumption , so if you need more
    electrical energy more mechanical resistance to rotational force is
    required .
    Now do you understand ( the alternator is not a constant load)
     
    atec77, Feb 6, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Nev, it doesn't apply in this case but if you've ever get a chance to play
    with one of those old hand-cranked telephones just try turning the handle
    when you've got a short-circuit across the terminals and you'll see that
    electrical load does very much create crank load.
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I've got one of those in the shed. Made in 189x. I've rewired it to ring the
    bell locally.
    The damn thing has a 'child-proof' feature. You have to hold down a button
    on the top of the phone for the cranking to have a circuit.

    Those bloody kids in 1900! Probably grew into responsible
    G-G-G-Grandparents.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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    Dale Porter Guest

    By "driving lights", are you referring to high beams, or only additional lights fitted to improve visibility?

    I know in some states (Tasmania being one of them) high beams are not allowed to be used in built up areas. However in Victoria high
    beams are permitted anywhere to improve visibility, provided there is not a vehicle in front (heading in either direction) within
    200 metres.

    Reading through the regs and there's no mention of additional high-powred lights and their use, other than "fog lights".
     
    Dale Porter, Feb 6, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    High beams. Driivng lights are not allowed to be wired so that they can be
    on except with high beam. So you can't have them on unless you are on high
    beam.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2007
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