P plate training ...not

<sigh> Well yeah ! But... it'll be different this time !!

Don Quixote

 

Refer to footnote, I think that makes you.... was it " a blithering
moron" ? ;-)

JL

 

'cause they don't register the load from the headlights, obviously!

 

nah, there just aren't enough hours in my lifetime to read much past a
few paragraphs in any post.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

Good work, Yossarian

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

IF you already have the action of the injector (and fuel pressure etc)
benchmarked so that the amplitude and duration that you measure with the
oscilloscope actually means something.
Other wise all you're measuring is "bigger/smaller" or "longer/shorter"
which, as you point out, can give you relative info but not actual "fuel
usage".

Let's go the other way here; what alternator do you reckon a 5.7L EFI
Commode with all the fruit is equipped with?
100 Amp, 120 Amp, 150 Amp? (maybe bigger still)
A 100A alternator running flat-out at 15V would be generating 1.5 Kilowatts
of electrical power.
That would take 2 or three kilowatts off the engine and if you were shunting
all that to earth you'd need a heatsink that would be as large and glow as
cherry-red as a single-bar room-heater!

Does that REALLY sound like something someone would design into a modern
car?!!? (and to save using a $2 brush?)
Fark me!

 

[agape]
****; I never knew that mathematics could be USEFUL!!

 

Gee... I haven't heard that quote since I attended my last
second-wedding.....

 

Hey is that a quote too?
If so; it MUST be me!!

 

Have a look at the post about the alternators-sizes Nev.
If your reckoning is correct you're shunting at least 1.5 kilowatts of heat
away to earth what there's no load.
Now go look under the bonnet and see if anything is glowing cherry-red.
If not; your assumption about how your charging-system works must be wrong.

 

By his own assertion, contradicted himself!

Hammo

 

Nev is correct.

Please show/send/inform us of the ISO900x, NATA or Aus Standards calibration
method and the parameters and the environment it is intended to be utilised
in.

Thanks

Hammo

 

****, there is a really bad echo in here.

Hammo

 

[yawn]
Gee the obfuscator seems to be getting a bit dim there Hammo.
Maybe you need to divert some more of that magic non-fuelled power to it!

 

Ha hah; "Engineering reports that the obfuscator and diversion-generator are
both back on-line and running at full-power Captain!"

 

Perhaps you'd like to consider what accurate and repeatable mean?

Would you like a book on statistics, or will JL help you out? Feel free to
make it easier for Nev to highlight his results, as, that is what you are
doing!!! Thanks also to GS!!

Do come again....

Hammo

 

I'll take that to be (until shown calibration) to be confirmatiom.

Well done, Nev! 2 - 0!

Hammo

 

Sorry Clem, just paraphrasing myself. http://tinyurl.com/2v5g5d

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

Oh, yeah, but isn't this thread about using more fuel when you've got P
plates on or something? I don't remember.

A field coil based one, so nothing much like a motorcycle[*] one anyway.

Hey, guess what? After all that it looks like the XLV regulator might
be a shunt design after all ... Honda, 1986. I can't work out _WHY_,
though, because the power part of the design they've used is actually
_MORE_ complicated than the switch-mode design I posted the little piccy
of the other day, although maybe the control logic is a bit simpler.

-----sharks[**]

[*] Other than BMW, and probably some Guzzis I imagine, of course.
[**] Wrong on Usenet every now and then.

 

Also the air is slightly cooler (on average) at night, so engine is
more efficient.

-----sharks