P plate training ...not

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by alxr, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. alxr

    atec77 Guest

    yes , its ok and will charge a battery when the whirleewhirlee breaks
    the mains supply
     
    atec77, Feb 6, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yeah but you can't create power so you can only ever get nearly the output
    of the input.
    Say you're burning 1000 watts energy in your internal combustion engine
    you're maybe creating 500 watts of output power and 500 watts of heat and
    noise.
    The alternator then takes the 500 watts of energy and turns that into 200
    watts of electrical power and the rest is turned into heat and (perhaps)
    light.
    So yes; your 25cc whippersnipper could probably run a 150 candle-power
    lightbulb or similar.
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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  3. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Holy mother of god; get the women and children off the street!!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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  4. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Hmmm [rechecks thread].... YES.
    Air-con too!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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  5. alxr

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I should've known 45kph was pushing into "Totally Ludicrous Speed"!
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 6, 2007
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    Boxer Guest

    800 revs.

    each time.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Feb 6, 2007
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    Dale Porter Guest

    In the words of Bugs Bunny....

    "I know this defies the laws of physics, but I never studied law."
     
    Dale Porter, Feb 6, 2007
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    CrazyCam Guest

    I'd have thought that the doors being locked might be good if folk were
    trying to pull occupants out of car, or, OTOH, bad... for the same reason.

    Many years ago, in britain, it used to be illegal to drive a car with
    the doors locked.

    The logic was that if you stacked it, locked doors made it harder for
    people to pull you out of the remains.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Feb 6, 2007
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Bugga me! Being a simple lad, I thought they were just to make it
    easier to get the end of the air hose connected. :)

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Feb 6, 2007
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    Dale Porter Guest

    Interesting thought, although many times in crashes where significant damage to the vehicle occurs, the doors cannot be opened
    anyway, regardless of whether the doors were locked or not.
     
    Dale Porter, Feb 6, 2007
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    Toosmoky Guest

    Maybe once, but we have very big can-openers nowadays...

    Burst-proof (-resistant might be a better term) door locks are now
    ubiquitous and do not impede a properly equipped rescue team.

    Then again modern cars such as BMWs are very hard to get into, even for
    Road Accident Rescue teams because of materials tougher than our tools
    and pyrotechnic devices but the flip side is that you'd have to be
    trying very, very, very hard to get hurt in one...
     
    Toosmoky, Feb 6, 2007
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Aye, but, Joe Public doesn't have them, and Joe is the most likely
    person to be first on the scene.
    Agreed, but see above.
    Some people put a serious amount of effort into it. :-|

    In the past, I have been the first on scene.... four people in a _very_
    twisted, mangled mess of a car, wrapped round a power pole... petrol
    everywhere.

    At the time it made sense to me to remove those that I could from what
    seemed like a potential fire bomb. (My mate was sent off to get the
    experts.)

    In similar circumstances today, I'd really hate to just have to sit and
    watch what happens because the doors are locked. <shrug>

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Feb 6, 2007
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    Toosmoky Guest

    Yes, you're right. Every prang is different, some doors, though mangled
    can be easily opened, others may look undamaged but will be jammed into
    bodywork.

    A seatbelt cutter, like a fire extinguisher is a good investment and is
    more likely to be used on someone else's car other than your own.

    You'd be surprised at how quickly a hacksaw can cut through roof and
    door pillars and frames...
    All valid points, which reinforce my opinion that motorcycles are much
    safer than cars, both for the occupants/riders and the things they might
    run into...
     
    Toosmoky, Feb 6, 2007
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    jlittler Guest

    Typical ! Ignores invite to attend drinks at North Sydney Hotel while
    it was my local and 800metres stagger away, waits until I move back to
    the inner west and NOW he wants to catch up ! Hmmpph ! :)

    JL
    (yeah all good, maybe it's time for some sort of ausmoto drinks or
    sumthin' ? Maybe a ride ? Anyone interested ? Bueller, Bueller ?)
     
    jlittler, Feb 6, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    Ummm... As previously stated, I know little about electrics, but even
    less about physics - I leave that up to the physicians :) - so I have no
    idea what the **** you're going on about... but some others seemed to
    agree with me.. so I my guesswork couldn't have been too far off the
    mark.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 7, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    I hope you're not suggesting that it will move, because that will blow
    the original "uses more fuel" argument out of the water...

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 7, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    I know in new Commodores (and I presume other production cars as well),
    whenever the airbags are deployed, the doors all automatically unlock,
    and the interior light turns on.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 7, 2007
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    Toosmoky Guest

    In BMWs, the windows also drop two inches so the pressure increase
    inside the car when the airbags deploy doesn't blow them (or your
    eardrums) out, the battery leads sever themselves with a pyrotechnic
    charge and the car calls BMW for help.

    Also, If there's no passenger, the passenger side airbags don't deploy.

    There's probably a few other things that I've forgotten as well.
     
    Toosmoky, Feb 7, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    Eh?

    Paul is correct. Feel free to point out where he is wrong.

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Feb 7, 2007
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    Hammo Guest

    You go and "quantify" the "waste of petrol".

    Thanks

    H
     
    Hammo, Feb 7, 2007
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