Paging Ace - you are now permitted to smile

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:43:13 -0800 (PST), in

They're still likely to have a greater surface area, unless you're
comparing with fat off-piste skis.

IME waxing skis makes them faster for about half a day until it all
wears off. Rental skis tend to be serviced fresh for each renter, so
will certainly not suffer in that respect.

*ding*

Or alternatively - allowing faster speeds with the skis flat on the
snow with less chance of catching an edge. Modern teaching techniques
would emphasise that you're _always_ on one edge or the other, such
that this wouldn't be an issue.

No, they tend to use very long, almost completely straight skis. No
more comparable to normal skis than those used for ski-jumping.

 

^^^^^^
*boggle*

Aren't all skis 'completely straight' then?

 

When I learned, you held your arm up high, and cranked your palm over
at 90 degrees, and the ski was supposed to fit snugly between your
palm and the ground. That was in the wooden ski and lace-up boots era,
mind.

As a student, nearly 30 years ago, I skied on 205mm skis.

<Fond memory>

Rossignol Dracs. Went like split shit down a slope, and very stable in
a straight line, but an absolute bugger to turn.

</fm>

I was amused to find that these days the skis are supposed to reach as
high as your chin, or mouth, or nose, depending on experience and
size.

I'm tempted to grab another week at Easter....

 

Fascinating. Because that is *exactly* how I found myself on these new
skis, last week, even when supposedly schussing in a straight line. It
improved stability enormously, and there was a marked tendency of the
tips to wash out one way or t'other if I didn't. Not like my old
planks at all.

 

I sold off my old skis gear when I retired ?10? years ago so my
reference is old technology.
My 190 Atomic composites with a waisted area after the binding were
*very* fast down hill.
The Rossignols 160 were no where near as fast but mogul fields flat out
*no problem*.

I also had a little electric waxer to treat the skis and an electric
edger I bought in Freiburg im Breisgau. These made a big difference.

 

Heh welcome to 1997!

 

No, and they never have been. e.g.
http://www.salomonski.com/uk/on-pist-salomon-men-skis.html. I take it
you've never skied?

 

ISWYM now.

Correct.

 

nope, length limits are even more strict in the faster disciplines as are
turn radii.


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Only twenty years for me (a late starter on getting remarried). TBF the
185s were always a tad too long for me really. I bought them used from
Snow+Rock on impulse after getting to a standard good enough to want to
ski regularly. Thought I would grow (skillwise) in to them.

As Ace and others have said, probably time to start again on modern kit.

Hmm, it is early this year isn't it. Our old skis are in the loft at the
chateau, plus SWMBO's Elan cross country skis. Wonder if there will be
enough snow left at Mont Dore to make it worth a day trip (a couple of
hours run)?

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"More strict"? Not sure how that could be so - there are minimum
lengths for all categories, equally enforced.

There is no mimimum radius defined for Slalom, and the desire to move
to shorter skis was only really apparent there, as shown by the
minimum length requirement of 165cm for Men's Slalom, c/w 215cm for
men's downhill.

 

Luckily for me the new regulations for skis have been downgraded to
"recommendations" for Masters, I was going to have to get new GS skis for
next year to comply with the new radius requirements.

I meant that there was more regulation for the faster disciplines and In the
few years I have been competeing - if you can call what I do competeing
Ski lengths / radii for GS have changed at least twice.