Paging Bear...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JackH, Dec 3, 2005.

  1. JackH

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Utter bollocks. I don't remember Champ having major problems with his
    9R calipers and I didn't have any problems with mine. Just because the
    brakes on yours were crap it doesn't make all of them the same.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 17, 2005
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  2. JackH

    'Hog Guest

    I'm suspicious that the master cylinder has something to do with it. The
    Gixxer 6 pots *might* be greatly improved by the right choice of
    cylinder/ratio.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Dec 17, 2005
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  3. Actually, this is a very, very good point. I've improved brakes
    *immensely* in the past, simply by changing the m/cylinder.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 17, 2005
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  4. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    'Hog said...
    The master cylinder used by both Suzuki and Kawasaki is the same item,
    with the same bore/ratio when they fit either 4 or 6 pots.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 17, 2005
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  5. JackH

    ginge Guest

    They can grip with the power of half a dozen marketing departments.
     
    ginge, Dec 18, 2005
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  6. If it's the same bore ratio then all that means is the total piston
    displacement is the same on 6 as on 4. To get a better bore ratio (more
    hydraulic leverage) you'd need to either use a smaller bore M/C or a
    larger total slave cyl displacement. Problem with that is, if you go too
    far, the slightest wibbly wobble on the slave cyls (being knocked back
    by a warped disc, or loose mountings) means that the first stroke of the
    M/C might all be used up simply getting the slave pistons back to where
    they should be and not doing any gripping of the disc. Not good.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 18, 2005
    #46
  7. This here explains it...

    http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november02radialbrakes.html

    I've not had first hand experience of them, so don't know if he's
    talking bollocks or not, but it certainly makes sense to hold the
    calipers more firmly, especially the longer multi-pot jobbies around
    now. Indeed, the advent of multi-pots almost dictates the positioning of
    them and necessitates a lower mounting arm.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 19, 2005
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