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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Adie, Jun 20, 2006.

  1. Adie

    Adie Guest

    happy three year points anniversary.

    not that they made it onto your licence but they're now not applicable
    to mine :eek:)

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    Adie, Jun 20, 2006
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  2. Jeez was that 3 years ago already?
    but you can't take em off for another year right?
     
    DoetNietComputeren, Jun 20, 2006
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  3. Adie

    Adie Guest

    yup.
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    Adie, Jun 20, 2006
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  4. Adie

    darsy Guest

    err, it was 200*4* we were in court, you know...
     
    darsy, Jun 21, 2006
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  5. Adie

    Adie Guest

    yes but the three years counts from the date of the offence though the
    following page only gives details of when they can be removed from the
    licence.

    http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/endorsem.htm#1. Endorsement Guide
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    Adie
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    Adie, Jun 21, 2006
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  6. Adie

    Ace Guest

    I don't think it does, you know.

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    Ace, Jun 21, 2006
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  7. Adie

    WavyDavy Guest

    I think that they 'expire' after 3 years but can't be taken off til after 4
    from the date of offence, unless you're DQ'd or done for dangerous driving,
    where it's 4 years from the conviction date.

    Or something

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Jun 21, 2006
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  8. Adie

    Adie Guest

    to quote from the page below, our offences are counted for topping up
    for three years and must be left on the licence for four.

    Endorsement Guide
    Disqualifications, convictions and acceptance of fixed penalties
    payments in respect of driving offences are notified to DVLA by the
    courts. The details are entered on to the driver's record and the
    licence. In addition to paying a fine/fixed penalty the drivers
    licence will be endorsed with a penalty ranging from 3-11 points or a
    period of disqualification will be imposed, depending on the
    seriousness of the offence. Any driver who incurs 12 or more penalty
    points within a 3-year period is liable to be disqualified under the
    "totting -up" system. Information on a driver's entitlement and
    endorsements are sent to courts and police on request.

    Endorsements must remain on a licence for 11 years from date of
    conviction if the offence is :

    drinking/drugs and driving (shown on the licence as DR10, DR20, DR30
    and DR80).

    causing death by careless driving whilst under the influence of
    drink/drugs (shown on the licence as CD40,CD50 and CD60).

    causing death by careless driving, then failing to provide a specimen
    for analysis (shown on the licence as CD70).

    or 4 years from date of conviction if the offence is as listed below :

    reckless/dangerous driving (shown on the licence as DD40,DD60 and
    DD80),

    offences resulting in disqualification.

    disqualified from holding a full licence until a driving test has been
    passed.

    or 4 years from the date of offence in all other cases.

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    Adie, Jun 21, 2006
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  9. Adie

    Ace Guest

    <snip>

    Yeah, I already read the link. Note the following passages:
    (It doesn't specify here when the 3-year period starts)
    Which is not talking about how long they remain valid for totting-up
    purposes.

    I _know_ from much past experience that it was always date of
    conviction that counted in this case.

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    Ace, Jun 21, 2006
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  10. Adie

    Daz Guest

    And insurance companies for some reason ask for declaration of points
    for five years.

    <snip>
     
    Daz, Jun 21, 2006
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  11. Adie

    Adie Guest

    I would have thought that for both it depends on the type of offence
    as to which date counts as the start.

    for serious cases, as stated in the original link, its the date of
    conviction. for lesser its the offence date.
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    Adie, Jun 21, 2006
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  12. Adie

    Ace Guest

    No, I think you're just wanting to believe that. Let's examine the
    statement again:

    So it's clearly talking about the date on which the points are
    "incurred" which can surely only be the date of conviction.

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    Ace, Jun 21, 2006
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  13. Adie

    ogden Guest

    The maximum they're allowed to with regard to rehabilitation of
    offenders. Anything non-custodial is declarable for 5 years, anything
    with a custodial sentence under 18 months for 7 years and anything
    longer than that for 10 years.
     
    ogden, Jun 21, 2006
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  14. Adie

    Pip Guest

    I had a (minor) offence recorded on my licence a while back. For some
    reason there was a considerable delay between the offence and
    conviction. The countdown for removal from the licence started from
    the date of conviction, which is when the offence was recorded and
    endorsed on my licence - there were two dates actually written on the
    licence - offence and conviction. They took the latter, natch.
     
    Pip, Jun 21, 2006
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  15. The picture on the card?
    Aye - must be. Those pictures need special handling. You can't just
    print them using any old equipment y'know.
    Printers capable of handling ginga properly are quite expensive. As is
    the HazMat shielding. And the psycotherapy for the operators.

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jun 21, 2006
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  16. Adie

    Switters Guest

    Leave your attributions in, you fucking clueless newbie.
     
    Switters, Jun 21, 2006
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  17. Adie

    darsy Guest

    I think you're talking shite, unfortunately.

    Still, you'll find out for sure when you try and get the points taken
    off.
     
    darsy, Jun 21, 2006
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  18. Adie

    zymurgy Guest

    Heh, is this like scanners that won't scan banknotes ;-)

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Jun 21, 2006
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  19. Adie

    Adie Guest

    I know they don't come off for four years. the likelihood is that
    they'll stay there until I next move house or change my name. neither
    of which i'm planning to do in the near future.

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    Adie, Jun 21, 2006
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