Paging electronics types : Datatool transmitters

I have the dubious blessing of a Datatool System 3 alarm / immobiliser.

This wonderful device comes with two transmitter fobs. And they are both
knackered.

Beneath the nubbins on the outer shell are cages with white plastic
actuators sitting in them, and beneath those are little convex, sprung
steel discs that operate as switches.

The problem is that all four of these discs - two in each fob - have
been flattened by repeated use and so no longer spring back away from
the terminals when you let go - instead they just bridge them
permanently.

This must be a relatively common problem, and I can't be alone in being
extremely reluctant to give Datatool any money for a new transmitter -
so, has anyone out there successfully sourced replacements for these
little discs ?

My Google mojo is weak, not least because I haven't the faintest idea
what they're actually called...

Of course, what I should really do is just rip the damn thing out, but I
know for a fact that I'll terminally **** up the electrics if I try it
myself. Can anyone recommend a man who knows about these things in the
London area ?

 

What? To rip the damn thing out and **** up the electrics for you?

darsy's yer man on the spot for that IWHT.

 

No, but according a forum posting I happened upon this setup may be able
to assist:

http://www.elitemotorcycleservices.co.uk/index.html

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Speak to Lozzo. He will know how to do it, may offer to do it for
cash/favours or should know a man who has the knowledge & time.

If it's the approved unit fitted as an option to Triumphs then it won't be
a complex or intrusive job as the factory wiring harness is pre-made with
the connectors in the right place. Just needs someone with the right
knowledge to remove it and tell the ECU it has been removed.

 

They used to be very common in calculator keypads.

These days everything is that soft springy rubber with conductive pads or
flexible membrane keypads.

Ahhh- just remembered where I'd seen some.

A few days ago I scrounged a bag of disposable cameras from the Kodak shop -
the Kodak ones had those little springy steel "popper" disks on the button
that starts the 350V converter.

Offer the shop up to £1 each for half a dozen *Kodak* disposable cameras -
give them a line about developing a project based on the HV converter for
one of the electronics hobby magazines and they might even donate the
cameras.

 

You don't need to rip the whole thing out, in fact it's nigh on
impossible on a Daytona 955i because the alarm is hard wired into the
bike's electrics at factory. You need the bridging plug that goes into
the socket that the alarm main unit plugs into. When I bought mine from
Adies she gave me the plug with all the documents so you should have
one. I know I used to leave them in the owner's pack when I was PDIing
Triumphs at Flitwick. If you don't have the plug go see your local
dealer and see what they can do.


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Lozzo
Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't got one of these, but there is a bag of bits
somewhere - I'll have a root around later on. I guess Metropolis in
Vauxhall might be able to supply one if not, I'll check it out.

So it's just a question of unplugging the alarm unit and replacing it
with the plug ? Seems suspiciously straightforward !

Thanks for the info, appreciated.

 

That's quite random, but I'll investigate, thanks !

 

Go careful pulling them apart - the photoflash capacitor can retain some
charge.

 

If it's like my Trophy, it doesn't even need that. Unplug alarm system
(one large jack plug) and plug in 'blanking plug' (for want of a better
word).

Job done. No need to faff with anything.

But the modern FI bikes may be more complex, I suppose.

 

(The Older Gentleman) wrote in

You'd wonder why they bothered to fit the system in the first place if it
is that easy to remove. Nicking the bike would just involve lobbing it into
the back of a soundproofed van (stolen refrigerated lorry) and taking the
bike to a lock-up to fit the replacement connector (this probably has a
shunt or resistor to connect a couple of pins so that the ECU gets the
right message).

 

It really is as simple as that. The plug is wired to bypass the alarm
box. The dealer will need the VIN from the bike and probably the
registration document as well to verify ownership. The Triumph factory
have a database of the alarm plug wiring configuration for each bike
made because they didn't use the same one on all Daytona 955i's for
obvious reasons.

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Lozzo
Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

Well, quite.

Probably. I remember reading the manual, and discovering that all you
had to do was plug in the Triumph alarm (a Datatool, like you say) via
the connector in the seat hump cubbyhole, after first removing (and
safely storing) the blanking plug.

And I had a shufti, and there it was.

If I were doing it these days, I'd make sure that the blanking plug was
coded to the ECU, like an ignition key is: that would make the thieves'
life a bit harder. Perhaps it already is: I dunno.

 

I need to pull out the alarm from my Tiger, it's fucked.

You can disarm it only after setting the alarm off. I think it's on
its way out .. :/

Paul.

 

Same procedure for removing the alarm - you'll need the correct plug to
refit in the socket.


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Lozzo
Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)