Paging instructors - CBT requirements?

A friend attempted to do her CBT yesterday. Four trainees were assigned
to one instructor, who gave them about 30 minutes each to wobble about
helplessly on a car park, before taking them out on the road. She, with
no prior knowledge, found this woefully inadequate; the helmet she was
given was too large ("there's no more so that'll have to do") and the
radio unit only worked sporadically (same excuse). She took issue with
the instructor, who said that they were only there for assessment, not
training, despite the "T" in CBT. However, bad weather caused the
session to be adjourned before any of the trainees had demonstrated
"acceptable standard", so they have to go back next week (no extra cost,
at least).

What I want to know is:

1. Who to complain to - I assume the local DSA office?
2. What are the minimum requirements of the CBT?

This fucker's losing his instructor's licence. I'll name and shame when
I'm sure of it.

 

Hmm, that doesn't sound like the kind of place you want to be learning
your roadcraft skills from.

RiDE magazine has covered this area in the most recent magazine, get
yourself down to a newsagents and look at it - I'm sure there is
information there that will be useful to you.

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Lesley
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"SP" <> burbled:

Ta, Lesley. Will do.

 

Sounds like a shambles.

An instructor can only take two pupils on the road at any one time, but
can train more than that off road. The off road part usually takes 3
to 4 hours, followed by a MINIMUM of two hours on the road. That 2
hours on the road is specified by the DSA.

See how she gets on next week first.

 

I had thought as much.

Yeah, fair enough. They only get one more chance though.

 

The off road work takes at least two hours to complete with newbie
riders. I use the DSA publication for CBT as my guideline to ensure I
cover all aspects of each element. It cannot be done in 30 minutes.

Usually, it takes me 2.5 - 3 hours to cover all the aspects of that
element with four riders.

Name and shame, name and shame.

 

Not a clue what is legally required, but as a guide this is what I got:

8:30 - 9:30 Safety Talk
9:30 - 1:00 Instructor taught 4 trainees in schools large training area
1:00 - 2:00 Lunch and safety video
2:00 - 4:00 On road assesment (instructor and 2 trainees)
4:15 Smiley face with certificate.

HTH, D

 

Sounds like you had a bad experience. I watched a friend do her CBT
in the car park at Carnells in MK and the trainer seemed to be doing a
really thorough job. Maybe it helped that the other trainee didn't
turn up *and* also that the trainer was having *his*perfomance
evaluated by an assessor that day.

 

That's not very good. *Name and Shame*.

I've taken four at a time without any problems. [1] But you must be
careful because the only thing between life and death on the road is
the training you've given them.

[1] Only two on the road though.

 

She's going back on Wednesday, I don't want to prejudice anything. Stay
tuned on Thursday though.

It's no good, I think my brain just broke.

 

Aha, I've just noticed what I typed. fair point.