Paging JP or other legal minded bods. Or any bod who has a comment. Or any obnoxious sod as well.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by MrMoosehead, Jan 26, 2004.

  1. MrMoosehead

    MrMoosehead Guest

    Mud and other shite on roads.

    What is the legal situation regarding this?

    I guess there are different situations to be considered. Let me explain why
    I am thinking of mud at the moment.
    It's damned slippy out there at the moment. There are three places on my
    current commute that give me cause for concern .

    Place #1: Entrance to waste recycling plant . Thick caked mud on sharp bend
    in 'ghyll' (sort of small valley), from lorries leaving the plant. road
    covered in sheen of mud for 500m either side. No warning to motorists.

    Place #2: entrance to quarry just outside small village. Country road, major
    commuting cut through from Ilkley/Otley etc to N/NE leeds. Steep hill that
    is continuously covered in mud from lorries entering and leaving quarry.
    Also tracked around notoriously slippery roundabout on A660. Today with the
    added bonus of diesel spills. Coverage - 500m either side. No warning to

    Place #3: Country roads, many farm gate entrances onto roads. Often mud
    tracked out of fields on bends etc. No warning to motorists.

    Now the observant amongst you will have noticed a common theme here.
    Absolutely no warning given of the approaching hazard. I was under the
    impression that warning had to be given, certainly in the farmer case.
    I can see that one should expect some mud on the roads at this time of year
    from tractors - hard to avoid.
    I know where these hazards are, so I gingerly trundle my way through these
    bits (no wonder my bike ends up so dirty), but for any poor unsuspecting
    sod, these could end up being the quick way down.

    regarding the tip and the quarry - should a complaint be lodged against
    these companies? a) for the mud and b) for the diesel.

    I'm not suggesting to close them down - I know that's not
    pratical/realistic - I'm talking about forcing them to accept their
    responsibility to warn people of the shite they have left on the roads.

    Any thoughts anyone?
    MrMoosehead, Jan 26, 2004
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    Zobo Kolonie Guest


    A former cow-orker of mine crunched his Jeep[1] whilst losing the plot on
    mud strewn everywhere from building site that was part of the new housing
    estate he'd recently moved to. His insurance company coughed up for the
    repairs and sued the building contractor, who it must be said had previously
    had fingers waved at them regarding the mud and crap they were leaving all
    over the public roads.

    So presumably you can be liable for accidents caused by any crap that you
    strew over the road.

    [1] I must admit that I had to laugh, there he was with his dirty great big
    4x4 Chelsea Tractor and a bit of mud on the road caused him to lose control
    at low speed!
    Zobo Kolonie, Jan 26, 2004
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    Robbo Guest

    Mud and other shite on roads.
    Pinched from
    so I reckon it would be applicable to other councils

    Mud on the Road
    It is an offence for anyone to deposit anything on the highway which may
    cause a nuisance or a possible danger to road users. The main examples of
    this are soil and mud, usually left by farmers or building contractors.
    If the mud, etc causes a nuisance or a safety issue, then we will remove the
    substance or arrange for the Fire Brigade to wash it away. All the costs
    incurred will be recovered from those responsible.

    Please tell your area highway team if you see significant amounts of mud on
    the road.


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  4. Inform the highways department of the local council, if you think it's
    a hazard now inform the police who will have a council contact they
    can pass the details to[1].

    [1] Assuming it works in a similar manner to when my brother worked
    for the council highways.

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    Boots Blakeley, Jan 26, 2004
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    AndyH Guest


    It adds to the fun of biking.

    I had my MZ going sideways down the road on the mud from the new pool
    in Grange. They are now replacing the waste pipes from Cartmel to the
    coast. Its great fun on the GSX1100F, just open the throttle and
    watch that back end go!

    The gritter got me tonight, right in the eye. I'd just set off and
    was about to close my visor. Grit really stings, it still hurts now.
    That wasn't fun.
    AndyH, Jan 26, 2004
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    Zobo Kolonie Guest

    You never know with this interwebbynet thing, it could be... is darsy a fat,
    balding, **** then? ;-)
    Zobo Kolonie, Jan 26, 2004
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    Cane Guest

    " "
    Cane, Jan 27, 2004
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    Cane Guest

    Does she take it up the gritter?
    Cane, Jan 27, 2004
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    Eddie Guest

    Realli? Was she Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end
    of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law -
    an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an
    Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"?
    Eddie, Jan 27, 2004
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    Cane Guest

    Which half?
    Cane, Jan 27, 2004
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    Eddie Guest

    I can imagine.
    Sounds thrilling. I can't wait.
    Eddie, Jan 27, 2004
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    Eddie Guest

    Huh, what?

    <fx: googles>

    Oh, *that*. Not that I know of.
    Eddie, Jan 27, 2004
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    Eddie Guest

    Here, pass me that spade - you'll need both hands to climb out of there.
    Eddie, Jan 27, 2004
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    MrMoosehead Guest

    En gång bet en älg min syster?
    MrMoosehead, Jan 27, 2004
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