Paging the beemeristi

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    A colleague of mine likes the look of the F800ST.

    He's moving up from a scooter.

    I know zip about beemers.

    Good points, bad points about this model? Things to look our for if
    buying one?

    Suggestions for other bikes for him to look at? I've listed Bandit,
    Hornet, Fazer, Thundercat, SV. He seems to be leaning towards 'touring'
    rather than 'sport'.

    tia
     
    Simon Wilson, Feb 17, 2010
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    Vass Guest

    Vass, Feb 17, 2010
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    crn Guest

    It probably weighs twice or even 3 times as much as the scoot so make
    sure he wheels it around the showroom a few times before either
    deciding to buy or dropping it on the floor.
     
    crn, Feb 17, 2010
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  4. Simon Wilson

    wessie Guest

    There have been a myriad of recalls on the F800 series since they came out.
    Usual beta testing on the paying customer that is a feature of BMW
    Motorrad. I think the F800 is pretty stable now but worth checking with a
    BMW dealer that any mods have been carried out.

    Belt drive is excellent. Motor goes well. Quite light. Expensive, though.
    BMW dealer servicing costs are very high, especially in the SE. I have an
    excellent independent in Cardiff and would recommend your colleague sources
    one local to him before considering a BMW.

    If buying used then also look at the Yamaha TDM900. Depreciates a lot so
    can be a good buy used.
     
    wessie, Feb 17, 2010
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  5. Simon Wilson

    wessie Guest

    You're making a big assumption that he rides something designed for a
    child.

    For BMW levels of mass, the F800S is a lightweight at 182kg which is 15kg
    less than a proper scooter, the Tmax.
     
    wessie, Feb 17, 2010
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    I was pretty impressed at how light it was when I checked a couple out
    at my local BMW dealer before Christmas. Saying that I also thought the
    R1200GS was much lighter than I was expecting.
     
    DozynSleepy, Feb 17, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    DozynSleepy wrote:

    They can make them as light as they like, I still think they're shit
    and not worth the price.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 17, 2010
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  8. Simon Wilson

    wessie Guest

    30kg less than my 1150GS - BMW used a water cooler bottle in their
    advertising to put the difference into perspective.

    Much of the apparent "lightness" is due to the boxer engine. This makes the
    CofG fairly low, making the bike short arse friendly.
     
    wessie, Feb 17, 2010
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  9. Simon Wilson

    wessie Guest

    nearly 5 hours. You wanna pull your finger out you slacker
     
    wessie, Feb 17, 2010
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  10. Simon Wilson

    DozynSleepy Guest

    Heh, this was a main dealer so the prices were reassuringly expensive.
    Both the bikes seemed pretty good, although not enough for me to want to
    give up my drink allowance to pay for one.
     
    DozynSleepy, Feb 17, 2010
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  11. Simon Wilson

    crn Guest

    I am surprised that the beemer is that light, most of them are bloody
    heavy. OTOH it is still 3 time the weight of the shopping trolley and
    around twice the weight of most modern 125 scoots.
     
    crn, Feb 17, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    They've only been making a range of lightish single cylinder bikes since
    the mid 1990s and the lightish parallel twins since 2006.
     
    wessie, Feb 17, 2010
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    Gyp Guest

    Not sure if I mentioned it at the time, but though I found him excellent
    on quality and price for what he did, I was a little put off by the
    advice received.

    He was keen to replace a tyre that "the local police would probably book
    you for" but clearly had over a mill left to the wear marks. Seven
    months later (ok only a thousand or so miles later), it's gone through
    an MOT with the same tyre on.

    He also wanted to book it in to have one of the drive bearings replaced
    as "it was drying out and could clearly be heard when the bike was
    bounced up and down" which having checked it later turned out to be the
    seat rubbing against the plastics.

    I suspect the former was just him being cautious, and the latter quite
    probably a genuine mistake, however I could easily have ridden out a
    couple of hundred quid poorer than I needed to if I'd taken the advice
    on offer.
     
    Gyp, Feb 18, 2010
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  14. Simon Wilson

    wessie Guest

    I haven't found him to be pushy with work needed.[1] He is a bit over-
    cautious with things like brake pads. He's told me at the last 2 services
    that my front pads won't last to the next service. I've been to Austria
    twice and have been commuting to Cardiff for a few months on them.
     
    wessie, Feb 18, 2010
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  15. About time you understoof that nobody else shares your passion for this
    thing ;-)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 19, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    It's not a patch on the original 850...
     
    Ace, Feb 19, 2010
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  17. <refuses stinky bait>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 19, 2010
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