Paging the builders

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. Rough stone can be repaired but its a job for the experts and not
    cheap , usally only done if the walls part of a listed structure
     
    steve robinson, Mar 29, 2010
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  2. Simon the building or the wall hasnt got a listed status has hit
     
    steve robinson, Mar 29, 2010
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  3. Is the wall supporting a lateral load (ground higher oneside than the
    other)
     
    steve robinson, Mar 29, 2010
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    and if the wall falls down, Simon will be overlooked...
     
    Dave Emerson, Mar 29, 2010
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    Thomas Guest

    Hire a pro, it'll be cheaper in the long run. It's not a one-man-job,
    so find someone who knows more than you.
     
    Thomas, Mar 29, 2010
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  6. He wont need a headstone though :)

    I'll get my coat .
     
    steve robinson, Mar 29, 2010
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  7. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    The latter.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 29, 2010
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Yes. You can see a person standing behind the wall. Ground level the
    other side is about the same height as the roof on the lean-to building
    you can see on the side of the house.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 29, 2010
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  9. Oh dear....
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Mar 29, 2010
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  10. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest


    Wassat then? Is that that stuff that's sort of armco-like cross section?
    Has to be pile-driven[1] in?

    [1] paging TOG
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 29, 2010
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  11. Looks like a job for S W *really* K. Not DIY at all.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 29, 2010
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    mark Guest

    ****. That makes a difference; I'd say it needs rebuilding.

    So there's a difference of about 8' ?
    The old rule of thumb for a gravity wall is that it shouldn't support
    and active load of more than a third of its active height (basically the
    difference between the ground levels). (1).

    So that wall should be nearly 3 foot thick by rights...

    That's going to make an awful mess when it comes down
    I'd call the buttress plan a bodge; sorry.
    You'd be taking a risk working under it.
    There will be very little warning when/if it goes (2)

    1.This rule is out of the window if there is a surcharge such as the
    ground sloping up from the wall or parking bull dozers behind it etc)

    2. I know of a few walls that have been bulging scarily for
    years.................
     
    mark, Mar 29, 2010
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  13. That's the stuff, but I didn't know how long a wall it was, until now.
    Cost a bit, that will. Still, it might be cheaper than an insurance
    claim from a squashed passerby.

    Another way - drive some girders in on end and fill in the gaps between
    with concrete panels, railway sleepers, etc.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 29, 2010
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    zymurgy Guest

    Should be loads of out of work brickies around IWHT .. ?

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Mar 29, 2010
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  15. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Something like that, maybe a little less.
    It's probably more like 2' thick.
    No there's nothing extra there, but I suspect the snow/rain this winter
    has helped put more load on it. At least it's completely porous.
    It's hard to tell how fast it's moving - I might glue some glass bits
    on some of the cracks. The wall's probably > 100 years old.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 29, 2010
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    I guess fence posts and larch lap wouldn't cut it.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 29, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    'Tell-tales' would be a good idea. Often fixed to buildings near sites
    were blasting is going on to see if cracks are 'active'.

    We used to get a lot of complaints alleging building damage from drop
    forging. Strange how the houses were thought to be in danger of
    collapsing, but the forge building had survived for a century right next
    to the 'ommers.

    Still - at least you will have 'RC' cover if it drops on a visitor.

    I've just had to send a 'bon pour accord' email to have the hot water
    tank at 'the chateau' replaced. Despite being fully drained down this
    winter has finished it off. TBF, it has leaked for a while whenever it
    was re-filled, and the joint on the plate thing at the bottom had been
    resealed a couple of times. Not a good idea for water to be dripping on
    to the heater connections with a tenant sitting on the bog just next to
    it.


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    Pete Fisher, Mar 29, 2010
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    mark Guest

    mark, Mar 29, 2010
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  19. You need serious support then , i suggest you get a professional to
    advise

    Its been years since i was involved in anything like that and times
    change . We had to have the soil at the back of the wall dug out ,
    graded back and a large concrete L shaped structure installed to
    retain the soil , had to install land drains to then backfill
     
    steve robinson, Mar 30, 2010
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  20. That might not work as thw whole wall might be moving .

    you need to put markers on the wall every few feet and measure back
    to a fixed point you know is stable , personally i would call in a
    surveyour who will have the correct kit to do the job
     
    steve robinson, Mar 30, 2010
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