Paging the kevlardenimisti: Some info...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Domenec, May 30, 2006.

  1. Domenec

    Domenec Guest

    Domenec, May 30, 2006
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  2. I have also corresponded with Mark Hodson on a number of occasions.

    The prophecy in the penultimate paragraph of Hoddy's opening statement
    has recently been filled by both the Halvarssons Safety suit and the
    Scott Leathers "New Road" and "Road Airflow" jackets. And not a gram of
    Kevlar in either of them. Dr Woods still rides in the late 1990s
    vintage Kevlar suit (Macbean Tritector) to which Hoddy refers, and
    which is the progenitor of the Halvarssons Safety suit.
     
    Paul Varnsverry, May 30, 2006
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  3. Domenec

    dwb Guest

    What a poor website Scott has - and it doesn't mention either of the
    jackets you've named.

    What is the point of coming up with a new, potentially advanced,
    product if you then don't tell anyone about it?
     
    dwb, May 30, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    For optimum coverage, they'd have to engage the services of /the/
    pre-eminent expert in the field - and he's busy elsewhere, it
    appears;-)
     
    Pip, May 30, 2006
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  5. I believe Scott's entire production capacity for the two jackets is
    currently taken up by police contracts, but that won't always be the
    case so I'll fire your comments off to their MD.
     
    Paul Varnsverry, May 30, 2006
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  6. Busy? Yes - very. Trying to get horse riders' body protectors from six
    different manufacturers through the approval process! Amongst other
    projects. :X

    I believe I've previously explained that I helped with the development
    and certification of the Scott garments, not only the Halvarssons
    product. I have also mentioned BKS' development of a textile jacket.
    None of these companies (or those in any other PPE product sector) pay
    me to promote their products - in fact there are obvious professional
    reasons why I could never accept such a commission - but that doesn't
    stop me giving them a well-deserved mention for a job well done.
     
    Paul Varnsverry, May 30, 2006
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  7. Domenec

    Pip Guest

    Damn. Holed.

    Anybody sell me a Kevlar keepnet with a guarantee?
     
    Pip, May 31, 2006
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  8. Domenec

    Tom Warner Guest

    Some new miracle fibre?

    And why is the Halvarssons priced where it is? Surely it can't be that
    difficult to kill and skin a Kev.

    Tom
     
    Tom Warner, May 31, 2006
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  9. Surprisingly, no. It's the weave that does the work.
    You've obviously never tried to catch one! It is claimed their skin has
    five times the tensile strength of steel and can break through any
    man-made trap. And if you do catch one, skinning them is a long,
    laborious process because of the need to constantly resharpen the
    knife/scissors. By comparison, the other types of "Kev" which frequesnt
    yourhome county are much simpler to catch and skin - or so I am told.
    :)

    Back to serious mode. Take a look at pages 18 and 19 of the latest
    issue of RiDE. A Rukka suit priced at £649 for the jacket and £399
    for the trousers (that's £150 more in total than the Halvarssons
    suit). CE-approved impact padding fitted, but the garments themselves
    are conventional textile and not approved to EN 13595 (which the safety
    suit is).

    I don't dispute the build quality for which Rukka has earned its
    reputation, but against the price tickets for the Scott and Halvarssons
    products, I think the question has to be asked "why is the Rukka priced
    where it is?" (and the same applies to many other, premium-priced
    "caveat emptor" textile garments).
     
    Paul Varnsverry, May 31, 2006
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  10. Paul Varnsverry wrote
    I hate you, you know that don't you? For some reason I cannot bring
    myself to call you a spamming ****, although by rights I should.
     
    steve auvache, May 31, 2006
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  11. I hadn't given it any thought whatsoever, to be honest; but I think you
    should speak your mind freely, because if you don't, like constipation
    it will only make you ill. :)
     
    Paul Varnsverry, May 31, 2006
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  12. Domenec

    Tom Warner Guest

    Interesting... so it's what, nylon in a 'Not-Cordura' sort of
    configuration?

    All the best,
    Tom
     
    Tom Warner, May 31, 2006
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  13. Polyester in a terry-knit configuration, backed with a high-tencity
    polyestermesh. The knit provides the cut and abrasion resistance; the
    mesh provides the burst resistance. Read all about it in "Textiles for
    protection" (Woodhead Publishing in Textiles; ISBN-13:
    978-1-85573-921-5).
     
    Paul Varnsverry, May 31, 2006
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  14. Domenec

    Tom Warner Guest

    It seems to have a slightly different isbn number:

    ISBN 1 85573 921 6

    A bit pricey for my curiosity. I'll see if the library will get it for
    me.

    Polyester... that's great. Maybe they can recycle all those '70s
    'Leisure Suits' ;o)

    All the best,
    Tom
     
    Tom Warner, May 31, 2006
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