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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Derek Turner, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. Derek Turner

    Pip Guest

    You don't want to use Vaseline, you know. It rots the insulation to
    your wires.
     
    Pip, Jul 17, 2009
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  2. Derek Turner

    Pip Guest

    I bodge to a very high standard, I'll have you know. Loz used to
    squirm, watching me Scotch towhitch wiring into the backs of cars.
    Every wire joint, in and out of the compulsory indicator beeper
    (annoying, but still a fucksight easier than running a wire the length
    of the car and in through a modern dashboard to a tell-tale light)
    there's a little nest of the nasty little blue fuckers in a rear corner
    of every car I've owned and quite a few more besides.

    They work well enough and they're quick and easy - and it's easy to
    fault-find if anything does go wrong: a jiggle of the bunch of wires
    usually makes contact, then a tug on the connector in question confirms.
    Unsnap and resnap, job's a good 'un. Much more straightforward than
    dicking around with a soldering iron and shrinkwrap in a space too small
    to get both hands in at the same time.

    I do solder critical joints and I might even 'wrap em if they're exposed
    - so I know all about the difficulties with spotting a dry joint or one
    that's fatigued back into two separate wires.
     
    Pip, Jul 17, 2009
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  3. Derek Turner

    boots Guest

    Interesting, I thought they should be but my supplied from new
    towhitch gives no additional indication when a trailer is attached.
     
    boots, Jul 17, 2009
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  4. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    KY jelly then?
     
    Derek Turner, Jul 17, 2009
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  5. Derek Turner

    Pete Fisher Guest

    A lot of 'professionals' seem to use them for towbar electrics. I was
    horrified to find such a nest on my CRV when I was having a problem with
    the trailer lights. That, however, turned out to be the box of
    electronic tricks needing re-setting because the battery had gone flat.
    The dealer showed me the big line blade fuse under the bonnet that had
    to be removed and replaced to achieve this. I wish he had shown me when
    I took delivery of the car.

    Then there was the Skoda, where the trailer lighting would fail if the
    supply to the 'brain' for the canbus connections was lost. This ran off
    the same fuse as the 12v auxiliary socket in the back (hooked into the
    wiring for that presumably). That took a bit of diagnosing.

    The mille outfit had them supplying the juice to the sidecar lighting.
    They survived reasonably well in a compartment in the tail unit of the
    bike under the seat. Though they did need a j-j-jiggle and/or a nip from
    the pliers a couple of times.

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    Pete Fisher, Jul 17, 2009
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  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, boots
    It should. Take it back.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 17, 2009
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  7. Derek Turner

    Catman Guest


    I had no intention to impunge your bodging skills. I simply find it
    amusing that techniques that I've used for years, and lasted well for
    years are 'bodges'

    Loz used to
    Agreed to all, but it's the *first* place to look IYSWIM.


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    Catman, Jul 17, 2009
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  8. Derek Turner

    boots Guest

    Agrilube is the same stuff and a lot cheaper. No idea if it's any good
    for waterproofing joints.
     
    boots, Jul 17, 2009
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  9. Derek Turner

    Catman Guest

    AFAIK It's water soluble, so seems unlikely.

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    Catman, Jul 17, 2009
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  10. Derek Turner

    MikeH Guest

    Jesus. I thought *my* car was slow.
     
    MikeH, Jul 17, 2009
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  11. Derek Turner

    boots Guest

    That would tend to make sod all use as a waterproofing chemical.
     
    boots, Jul 17, 2009
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  12. I agree with all of that and over a period of nearly forty years I've
    never had a problem with a Scotchlok I've put on. Had plenty of trouble
    with ones that others have installed, mind.
    Difference is, on every Scotchlok I install I make sure the lok is
    properly fitted and sized and then soak it with silicone spray, and if
    underbonnet or on a bike, seal it with Vaseline or silicone sealer.

    Bodge? I don't think so.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 17, 2009
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  13. Derek Turner

    Derek Turner Guest

    Whooooooosh!
     
    Derek Turner, Jul 17, 2009
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  14. Derek Turner

    zymurgy Guest

    I reckon there's just the same stress point at the site of a crimp. I
    concede that solder wicking up the cable might reduce it's
    flexibility ... or add to its strength .. ;)

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Jul 17, 2009
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  15. Derek Turner

    Pip Guest

    ITYF that's BrownZ.
     
    Pip, Jul 17, 2009
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  16. Derek Turner

    Dave H. Guest

    "Derek Turner" < wrote in...
    PJ/vaseline should be fine on PVC / Polyolefin (heatshrink) sleeving, only a
    problem with Real Rubber - silicone grease works ok too, but should be kept
    away from any moving contacts, as arcing creates little grains of silica
    (i.e. sand) which will Completely Knob switches etc.

    Silicone lubes should be kept away from silicone jelly-feel / realskin
    "toys" too, as they degrade the silicone gels (DAMHIK) - use KY for these,
    and only these.

    Heard of Y2K-Y jelly? lets you fit 4 digits where formerly only 2 would
    go... (old Geek humour)

    Dave H.
     
    Dave H., Jul 18, 2009
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  17. Derek Turner

    zymurgy Guest

    ook. Sorry for the feral '. What was my pinkie finger thinking ..

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Jul 18, 2009
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  18. Has to be on the edges otherwise they crumple up.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Jul 19, 2009
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