Paging the southerners

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Eiron, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. Eiron

    sweller Guest

    100t coal hoppers - I think they're JHA types with low track-force bogies.

    They've been around for over 20 years, I used to work them out of the
    Mendip quarries on stone trains - some years ago now.
     
    sweller, Dec 3, 2010
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  2. Ta. I couldn't think of why the snout-noses at either end were there,
    but I see it might be to house part of the hopper mechanism.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 3, 2010
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  3. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    Heh. Bad man.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 3, 2010
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  4. Eiron

    sweller Guest

    They cover some of the brake equipment but not really the hopper gear.

    I think the 'snouts' may be for streamlining to prevent "dead air" drag -
    you can really feel the wind in empty wagons.
     
    sweller, Dec 3, 2010
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  5. That's one's got to be worth some form of award.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Dec 3, 2010
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  6. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweller"
    <> saying something like:

    Thanks for the info - curious mind needs to know.
    Ah, true enough. I tend to think of a train as an entity; with a modern
    snout-nose loco punching through the air it would seem as if the rest of
    it would simply follow in its wake, but there must be a helluva lot of
    eddies and swirls between coaches/wagons and especially, as you say,
    into the tops of wagons, making up a large drag.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 3, 2010
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  7. Yes, it was a gift, really.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 3, 2010
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  8. Eiron

    wessie Guest

    noisy fuckers too - loads go through the Gavenny valley visible from here.
    Chug up the hill from Abergavenny station when full then race down the hill
    when returning empty. Presumably they are taking coal (either from the open
    cast mines in S.Wales or the bulk port at Port Talbot to the power station
    at Ironbridge.
     
    wessie, Dec 3, 2010
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  9. Eiron

    Hog Guest

    This was the M1 south on Friday night
    www.flickr.com/photos/15262772@N00/5238633342/

    The 'ploughs had given up (it seemed). Trucks were motoring down the inside
    lane and building up a ridge of snow and ice on the outer side. Cars that
    tried to cross it to lanes 2-4 were slewing around (1). They were only doing
    10-30mph FFS. The Saab was happy in lane 3 at 60 per. It was quiet so I was
    able to try avoidance maneuvers into lanes 2 and 4, as well as emergency
    braking (to a halt). The latter was best done building up gradually and
    holding it just off or just into ABS territory. But with (only front)
    Wintracs I could maintain control perfectly well and stop quickly. About
    equal to heavy standing water on ordinary summer tyres.

    This was the same part of the M1 heading north on Monday morning
    www.flickr.com/photos/15262772@N00/5238036405/

    Where I found it more exciting was tight turns on sheet ice. The front tyres
    were stuck to the road, the rears would come round to 30deg in a trice and
    try to make 90deg. Controllable at low speeds. So 4xWintracs might be worth
    the extra investment (if they had been available).
     
    Hog, Dec 6, 2010
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  10. Eiron

    wessie Guest

    wessie, Dec 6, 2010
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  11. Eiron

    Hog Guest

    The radio was not turned on (in volume terms) IYSWIM. The sheet ice in
    swathes across lanes 3 and 4 plus football sized snowballs falling off the
    central wall required some concentration.
     
    Hog, Dec 6, 2010
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  12. Eiron

    Ace Guest

    In some countries you must have all 4 wheels fitted with winter tyres
    if you're driving in snow. I've never tried with just 2, but I can
    well imagine it might get, err, 'interesting'.

    Just been to a local tyre centre this arvo[1], as all four of mine on
    the R36 are down to their tread wear markers, at about 5mm of tread
    left. Clearly well, like massively, within the legal limit, but at the
    point where they're no longer giving the level of grip I want on snow.
    Of which there's been a lot, both here in France and on the Swiss
    motorways coming back on Sunday night. No dramas, but once or twice
    there was enough of a 'moment' to start the adrenaline flowing.

    Of course, I could have just slowed down...


    [1] They didn't have any 205/50x17s in stock, so they've ordered some
    for Thursday. Nokians, I'm going with this time, 730 euros the set. V
    rated, as I'd never been altogether happy with the R rated (max
    106mph) ones the VW garage supplied me with originally.
     
    Ace, Dec 6, 2010
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  13. Eiron

    Lozzo Guest

    Ace wrote:

    On one Austrain trip I swopped the rear snow tyres off one of the Evos
    onto the front of the other Evo just so I had some semblence of grip.
    The Yokahama semi-slicks weren't really up to the conditions.

    I found it drove fine with just winter tyres up front



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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Dec 7, 2010
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  14. Eiron

    Pete Fisher Guest

    I suspect it depends on how you drive. I'm happy just to maintain
    reasonable forward progress and reach my destination in conditions that
    would be very difficult for summer tyres. The Yokohama C-Drives the
    French motorway vulture fitted in April have hardly any cross grooves at
    all.

    Just snow chains on the front were fine in the epic snow near Mont Dore
    a couple of years ago. Fitting them whilst queuing in the fast lane
    whilst kids were building snowmen on the verge was a surreal experience.

    When I go out to 'the chateau' in February I may put the summer wheels
    back on the front if it's not too cold when I set out, but the steelies
    with winter jobs will be in the boot (one will be permanently as a spare
    anyway) as well as snow chains.


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    Pete Fisher, Dec 7, 2010
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  15. Eiron

    Hog Guest

    On snow, yes fine, no issues at all. On sheet or black ice, less so in the
    twisties.
     
    Hog, Dec 7, 2010
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