Paging the Turbophiles

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX-7...07671QQcategoryZ9807QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemLooks reasonable enough?--Steve ParryK100RS SE & F650and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

 

apologies for buggered formatting ^^^

 

Tries the link again

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX-7...4640007671QQcategoryZ9807QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

engine casing look suspiciously scratched. wonder if it's been down the
road?

 

I've no objection to it having been crashed and repaired, provided it's been
repaired properly. The reason people are wary is that you tend to find
subtle frame problems... I've a BMW frame here, for example, which if built
up with fairing etc. you'd be hard put to notice that anything was wrong
with it. It's had a hard front nock and the head tube angle is slightly
steeper than it started out. I daresay it'd be rideable, too.


and no, it wasn't me wot dunnit.

 

Bear said...

I think that was Champ's third one. You can't have forgotten his first,
which was the JOG-LE bike and the other one, the remains of which he
made the Harris Magnum out of.

 

Yes. I found the handling rather neutral; almost wooden.

As are the brakes - piss poor compared to 70s Brembos but pretty good
when against contemporary Jap stuff.

I've also found out the MOT expired in January. Do I care? No, I'm a
proper biker me.

 

Fair comment., I found it (like the GPz750) woiuld go round corners if
you muscled it down, but primarily it wanted to go in a straight line
all the time.

True also.

 

I draw upon a quite limited range of bike handling experience as I
haven't really ridden anything post 1985. I found on the modern machines
I have ridden a detachment between me and what's going on.

Having to actually control the bikes and use a certain amount of brute
force is not an unknown to me so I don't really notice it (IYSWIM). What
I have noticed on both the Turbo and darsy's ZX7 is they feel top heavy
and I'm perched on top rather than a part of the machine; compounding the
detachment in the feedback and handling.

Making a direct comparison between Turbo and Guzzi shows how advanced the
Italian's older frame is/was. I know when the Guzzi is getting hairy and
can flat stick it more or less everywhere but the Turbo has a vagueness
about it which doesn't inspire total commitment.

Perhaps it's a question of confidence as I've not done the same mileage
on the Kwack.

None of the bikes I've had with mirrors were any good so I assumed
they're all like that.

 

err, compared to any other sportsbike I've owned, the 7R actually does
feel very top heavy.

 

Bear said...

I'd have to disagree there. Even a well worn out VF750F handled far
sweeter than any of the GPZ750As and Turbos I ever rode and far nicer
than the GSX750EFE of the same era that I owned. For a start off, the VF
would turn in without 3 weeks notice needed, and once laid over they
were pretty stable. They never flapped about on acceleration either,
unlike the GSX. I had two of them, and up until I got my Firestorm in
1998 I think they were possibly the only two bikes I'd never crashed.
That's just as well, because they weigh a fucking ton unfuelled and I'd
never have picked the things up.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear

Must just be me then. Can't say I ever noticed that.[/QUOTE]

There's an argument that any bike with you on it is top-heavy.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 

According to my GP, I should weigh 10kg less than I do.

Which is quite possibly true, but when you consider I currently weigh
75kg, am 5'6 tall and not particularly fat, I'm a concerned what I'd
actually look like if I did lose this amount.

 

Blackbird and Bindit were more top heavy than the 12R

I thought the 12R was top heavy, but after having wrung its neck
through the twisties (Guildford - Horsham) going to Gatwick on Friday,
I feel much more in control of it.

It takes a while to dial in properly, but there's a very definite
distinction betwen 'riding it' and 'piloting it'.

P.

 

dwb wrote

<waves>

 

I've ridden a turbo, the guzzi and several performance motorbikes.

They're all different obviously, but not all chalk and cheese, but more
in terms of handling and responsiveness.

the Guzzi is lovely, lots of torque, but definitely an agricultural
ride. The CofG is right on the floor, and the bike itself is extremely
low slung.

I have *absolutely no idea* how Simon rides that thing so swiftly,
either in a straight line, or through the bends, It tore past me on the
way to Chimay.

I've a feeling the 750T would be more vfr750-like, weight and handling
wise, old tech, but with an engine that's surprisingly powerful for the
size (i.e. way too powerful for /those/ brakes) I've not ridden
anything else with a remotely similar ride.

P.

 

Exactly!! Though if it meant I would have hair, I might accept this.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear

I know, but I'm busy.

And I'm losing weight quite rapidly.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 

dwb wrote

Nice having hair it is. Very useful for filling up the space in an old
lid and extending it's life another season until the summer sales start.

 

or possibly "revolting"?

I spose in that case it might improve from having been down the road.