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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Hello dear.

    As I'm one of our resident Identity Theft 'victims' I opened a suss
    email claiming to be from Barclays. It looks like Phishing to me but
    it's a bit *too* good.

    Firstly it addresses me by my correct name, secondly it contains my
    correct postal address and lastly it is addressed to me at my correct
    email address.

    It also looks quite realistic and the only sign of it being a scam is
    the "click here" button which appears to direct to
    ibank.barclays.co.uk.barclaysusers.ru although I haven't clicked any
    links on the email.

    I've phoned up Barclays who don't give a **** (hardly shock news as
    they're the same company that gave out all of my personal details to a
    total stranger and then changed my address to theirs late last year)
    who just told me to forward the email and delete it.

    I don't mind phishing, but it's a bit of bother when it has correct
    personal information in it.

    There's not much I can do about it. My address is public domain, as
    is my name so I can't get it removed from The World and I'm obviously
    on some "willing victim" scam list somewhere.
     
    BGN, Mar 6, 2006
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  2. BGN

    dwb Guest

    Get your details taken off the public electoral roll (if they're not
    already).
     
    dwb, Mar 6, 2006
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  3. BGN

    Buzby Guest

    So why should you - change banks.
     
    Buzby, Mar 6, 2006
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  4. BGN

    Wik Guest

    'Sfunny, I've had a whole raft of "Barclays" phishing attempts recently
    (despite not even banking with them0, although none contained the level
    of personal info you describe.

    I went to Barclays web-shite and did a search for pertinent information
    for escalation and the only recommendation was to forward to the New
    Scotland Yard's anti-fraud division.

    Ho hum.
     
    Wik, Mar 6, 2006
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  5. BGN

    Nicknoxx Guest

    snip

    From
    http://www.personal.barclays.co.uk/...sk=articleFWvi2&site=pfs&value=9190&menu=4926

    If you have received a scam email, please forward it on to
    (we won't be able to reply
    individually). If you think your account has been accessed, please visit
    our victim of fraud page.
     
    Nicknoxx, Mar 6, 2006
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  6. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I've already forwarded the email (as stated in my original post) and
    have already phoned them as described on their Victrim of Fraud page,
    but they DGAF.
     
    BGN, Mar 6, 2006
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  7. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I've already changed banks - but that didn't stop them giving away my
    details originally.
     
    BGN, Mar 6, 2006
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  8. BGN

    Nicknoxx Guest

    Oops sorry, didn't see that. Did you EXPECT them to GAF? Bankers.
     
    Nicknoxx, Mar 6, 2006
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  9. BGN

    Switters Guest

    Scammers getting smarter shocker.
    Any e-mail from my bank gets opened in raw source format first. I look at
    all the URLs to make sure they're correct. Obviously the one above is
    not, so I personally would not visit it and would have just deleted it.
    Change email, name and address, wrap tin foil around your head and don't
    talk to anyone. That should help.
     
    Switters, Mar 6, 2006
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  10. BGN

    dwb Guest

    And how are Islington Parking services?
     
    dwb, Mar 6, 2006
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  11. BGN

    BGN Guest

    The Chief Exec has yet to respond to my letter which was received 28th
    February according to the Royal Mail Special Delivery tracker.
     
    BGN, Mar 6, 2006
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  12. BGN

    BGN Guest

    21st
     
    BGN, Mar 6, 2006
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  13. BGN

    TOG Guest



    You won't be on a "willing victim" list. Such lists exist, but they're
    only of people who've been stupid enough to pay out money.

    Just ignore it. Block all emails coming from .ru if you feel like it,
    but I'd just ignore it.

    Actually, you could open it, go to the fake form where they ask for
    your details, and fill it in with fake details. It wastes their time.

    On occasions where scammers have asked me for my banking details, I've
    always given the correct banking details for the London Borough of
    Sutton, to whom I pay my council tax. Bank, address, account name (in
    my guise as a dodgy charitable funds administrator for the Church of
    England, I tell the scammers that LBS stands for 'Lord's Benevolent
    Society') and number.

    I figure that if Sutton Council can't look after its money, it deserves
    to lose it. And hey! Who knows? Perhaps the 15.5 million quid that the
    scammers promise really exists. In which case I'll demand a rebate on
    my council tax.
     
    TOG, Mar 6, 2006
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  14. BGN

    BGN Guest

    It was stuck in my filter already but I wanted to see something with
    gmail so I released it from SpamCop and actually looked at the body.
    If I hadn't have looked in my SpamCop filter I'd never have noticed my
    name and address.
    I would click the link, but it appears that they've got some string of
    characters in the URL to identify me. They're a lot more advanced
    than I had hoped.

    <http://hayn.gotadsl.co.uk/phish.jpg>

    I've bodged out my address and part of the URL string (above the start
    button) but it does appear that they've invested a lot in this scam.

    I think I'll just delete the email.
     
    BGN, Mar 6, 2006
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  15. BGN

    dwb Guest

    The english is still very poor. Much better than previous ones I've
    seen, but I've yet to get a letter or email from my bank where a
    sentence starts with "And".

    The other thing is the "MR/MRS" - my bank knows what gender I am, and
    in the case of many of my arrangements, my marital status.

    I don't think the scammers can pull this off the electoral role - hence
    the generic approach.

    Having an email address that doesn't have one's name (or surname if
    it's a unique surname) also helps I think.
     
    dwb, Mar 6, 2006
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  16. Wik wrote
    Pathetic innit. I just report them through the normal Spamcop channels
    and carry on with life[1].

    [1] For a variable and totally personal value of life, obviously.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 6, 2006
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  17. wrote
    There is no need to continue with this deceitful charade my son, the
    First Church of UKRM will accept all with open arms regardless of
    whatever burdens of sin they may have carried in the past. Come and
    join us, we could do with a dodgy funds administrator as it happens.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 6, 2006
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  18. BGN

    wessie Guest

    Switters emerged from their own little world to say

    The online banks I use never send emails with personal information in. Of
    course they send spam about their products but if they reply to a query I
    get an email which asks me to log onto the secure site to read the message.
    I ignore any other requests for information.
     
    wessie, Mar 6, 2006
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  19. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN belched forth and ejected the following:
    If your bank really want to get hold of you they'll use other means.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 6, 2006
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  20. Whinging Courier wrote
    On the odd occasion that my bank have felt the need to query my online
    spending pattern they have phoned me. Mind you I don't bank with what
    is left of what the used to call the Big 5, I bank with a proper foreign
    bank, so I don't seem to have the security issues that the rest of you
    have.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 6, 2006
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