Paging TOG - Valuation needed

T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching shade
of gold.

ABS and TCS (see below).

105,000 miles.

Baglux tank cover.

Honda colour matched top-box to go with the panniers.

Cosmetically challenged, and the ABS is currently faulting. Last time
that happened cleaning the battery terminals cured it. I haven't tried
that yet. Assume dodgy sensor (about £100 from David Silver).

1 year's MOT (mid August 2008) and taxed to end of November.

Currently sporting a towbar, but that'll probably be removed and flogged
separately.

Basically scruffy but sound Pan.

What will I get for it?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Sent to Coventry?

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, antonye

8^PpPpPpPpPp

Remind me to give you a friendly punch to the shoulder next time we
meet.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Simon Wilson

I shouldn't be in the least surprised.

But it does have to go. And I am open to offers. And it already has the
towbar fitted... ;^)

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?

I'd have thought maybe £1500-1600. Hard to tell without a pic to see how
cosmetically challenged it is. Service history would help.

 

Somewhere between 800-1200 quid would be my guess.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older

Not a testable item.

Blimey, that's better than I thought. It's got some service history.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Non-testable item for bikes.

Ah, I thought it'd be worth less.

 

Really? I thought if the ABS light was on, it was a fail. OK.

Let's have a quick look at Ebay, then....

Hm. Not many sub-2k Pans around.

This one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/honda-pan-european-st1100_W0QQitemZ130135001724QQi
hZ003QQcategoryZ9806QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Made £1650 and failed to meet reserve, but then owner had a ridiculous
BIN of £2.8k on it.

So yeah, 1500-1600 sovs sounds do-able if you gimp it properly.

 

Heh. A challenge! Let's see.......

 

First price being a really manky set of 400/4 carbs...

 

It's almost always more lucrative to break relatively old bikes than
sell them complete.

If you have the tools to do the job and space to store the bits, it
takes just three weeks to dispose of every nut and bolt on Ebay.

Week One: all the stuff that's in the want. Bodywork, trim, instruments,
crashable bits, etc etc. Tinware for SOBs. OE exhausts for SOBs...

Week Two: second division stuff. electrics, suspension, switches,
brakes, whatever. Start it all at 99p and no reserve.

Week Three: whatever's left. Frequently a frame and a wheel or two, plus
assorted crap. Start it at 99p and no reserve, buyer collects, and
someone comes and takes it away.

Job done.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ

No. ABS light on in a car is a fail.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older

It would be interesting. The brake testing gizmo in bike MOT stations
means that only one wheel spins at a time. On the Pan (IIRC) that'll
cause the ABS to fault anyway, because it only sees a signal from one
wheel.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Ah! That must be what I was thinking of. So a glowing ABS warning light
is not a fail on a motorcycle? It can only be a matter of time before
that loophole is plugged.

 

My old one was great. Like yours, it has a 'lazy' rear door on the
central locking - only IIRC it was the rear right-hand one.

The best thing was the comfort - best seats and best ergonomics of any
car I've driven. Fabulous build quality too.

Aircon stopped blowing cold shortly before I sold it - £95 and a Man in
a Van sorted that out with a re-gas.

 

How bloody silly. I mean, that suggests that if you spin the back wheel
with the bike on the centre stand and the ignition switched on, then it
thinks there's a fault.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older

There's a pretty good chance I'm wrong, y'know....

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

I'm fairly sure that the ABS light on is an MOT failure on a cage. ICBW
though.

 

It was when my old Honda Accord Aerodeck failed with an ABS light
fault (that wasn't the only fault it failed on mind - the root cause of
the ABS light being on was that one of the rear brake lights had blown
and that *always* caused the ABS light to come on with that model..)

Phil.