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    Pip Guest

    ... it wasn't the stroker ...
     
    Pip, Jan 21, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Pip scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    Go on, spill the beans...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 21, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    That combined with Loz's "already in negotiation" comment...

    Loz, you didn't bin it, did you?
     
    Ben, Jan 22, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    No, no bins involved.

    Sudden and catastrophic failure of XS electrics. Traced, after an
    hour in the fucking freezing fog this morning, to a broken inline fuse
    holder. Fuseholder replacement under way following coffee and fags.

    ****, it's cold.
     
    Pip, Jan 22, 2006
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  5. That'll be the vibration, that will. Nice big 650cc 360 degree vertical
    twin, with none of them fancy balancer shafts. You don't actually feel
    the vibes much as a rider because everything, but everything, is rubber
    mounted. Bars, seat, footpegs....
    Nice one. What do you think of the XS, btw?
    It is indeed. I've got to give Jamie some riding tuition today. he
    passed his CBT yesterday. Yay!
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 22, 2006
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    The Older Gentleman came up with the following;:
    Tell him congrats ... ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Jan 22, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    That'll be the vibration, that will. Nice big 650cc 360 degree vertical
    twin, with none of them fancy balancer shafts. You don't actually feel
    the vibes much as a rider because everything, but everything, is rubber
    mounted. Bars, seat, footpegs....[/QUOTE]

    There is indeed a profusion of rubber mounts. The vibes were not to
    blame in this case - it was FAP. Fat Arse Problems. The fuseholder
    containing a 20amp fuse on the primary power line had been squashed
    under the seat, against the battery cover, The spring-loaded contact
    could not then press against the end of the fuse and a gap appeared,
    cutting power completely. Fucker to find, easy to fix.
    'S a cruiser. Sounds awful, to my inline-four-accustomed ears - has a
    nice exhaust note, though.
    Good lad. Credit to him for sticking at it and making a go of it -
    especially at this time of year.
     
    Pip, Jan 22, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    I seem to remember that they made a lovely "Blat-blat-blat" noise when
    the throttle was opened wide. Not ridden one for about 20-25 years...
     
    deadmail, Jan 22, 2006
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  9. Blimey, they're stripping it already?
    The front brake needs attention, I'm sure. They were never *that* bad.
    Well, just got back from a nice quiet disused industrial estate where
    he'd been going round and round the block.

    Apart from one lap when he went into the corner *way* too fast, and
    drifted onto the wrong side of the road, he was pretty good.

    He wants to take the bike to scool tomorrow but I've vetoed it because
    (a) if the weather is like it was last night and this morning, it'll be
    bloody icy and (b) I don't have faith in his ability to cope with London
    rush-hour traffic yet.

    We called it a day when my teeth started chattering at around 4pm, and
    came home, and he insisted on doing another couple of laps round our
    block, with a huge shit-eating grin on his face.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 22, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    The Older Gentleman scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    And another one comes over to the dark side.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 22, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    Strange that. I've absolutely no desire to see either of mine on an
    underpowered moped.

    I'd also be happy if they never rode a motorbike in their lives; I'll
    take them pillion happily but I really don't want to have the worry from
    my children that I put my parents through (with regards to motorbikes.)
     
    deadmail, Jan 22, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Champ said...
    The first time my dad caught me pulling wheelies on my bicycle he took
    it off me and make me walk everywhere for a month.

    When I caught my son doing the same I taught him how to keep the front
    wheel up.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 22, 2006
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  13. Actually, I feel much the same way. For his birthday, he had the choice
    of the DT or a computer. He chose the DT.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 22, 2006
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  14. Champ wrote
    The pride is little more than selfish glee knowing that the achievement
    might, just might, help them earn enough of a living to **** off
    somewhere else and earn it. Nothing more. The *real* pleasure comes
    when they actually do.
     
    steve auvache, Jan 22, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    Living vicariously through others once you realise your life is over you
    mean?
     
    deadmail, Jan 22, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    Well, I didn't give my daughter the choice. And next time around I'll
    consider a car but there's no way I'd look at a bike. I mean, those
    125s barely move and traffic's so fast these days.

    She can do direct access once I'm dead.
     
    deadmail, Jan 22, 2006
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  17. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
    Stripping? It's stripped mate. It's not too bad, but I'll let Hog and
    Lozzo give the full SP.

    My workshop smells of two-strokes. :^)

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
    public toilet with the lid closed.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jan 23, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel said...
    It came apart easily, far too easily in fact. The reason why the RD
    nipped up on the M25 was apparent once we got it in the workshop - the
    right spark plug was finger tight and the left one was winding itself
    out....ooops. It was running fine and wasn't making any untoward noises,
    so I didn't suspect a thing. Added to this was a huge split in the right
    hand silencer joining rubber and you've got a recipe for disaster. Far
    too many of the screws and bolts holding casings and other items onto
    the engine were no more than finger tight, someone was obviously
    paranoid about stripping threads. The whole job of stripping the engine
    was made relatively easy by this, and the fact that I own a proper
    clutch holding tool, which meant that things like the primary drive nut,
    clutch centre nut and front sprocket were a doddle to remove. How it
    made it back from Surrey to Bedfordshire without blowing up completely
    is anyone's guess.

    Damage to the engine is limited to one piston which has a melted crown
    but it hasn't yet holed itself, the crank has far too much sideplay on
    both rods at the big-ends but the big-ends are not noticeably worn. On
    the gearbox side of things we discovered a semi circular section of
    metal sitting in the bottom of the cases, christ only knew where it came
    from. We search high and low through the box looking for missing bearing
    retaining sectioons and circlips to no avail, until Hog took a look
    through the Yamaha parts book I supplied and compared each gear cluster
    to the diagrams. He eventually found where it had come from, it was
    meant to hold the 6th gear from sliding up and down the shaft. As it was
    the 6th gear was sliding so far that it was trying to engage on the
    other side with the 5th gear, hence the horrible jumping effect it gave.
    At some point this offending circlip had caught itself square between
    two gears as there was a perfect indentation in it that corresponded
    exactly with the width of the gear teeth. On examination the gear
    engagement dogs and teeth look perfectly useable with no work needed
    there.

    Hog decided to have the cases vapour blasted, so we stripped everything
    off them and started a shopping list. obviously it starts with a full
    crank rebuild, new seals and gaskets and a set of pistons and bore hone.
    More will undoubtedly be added as we go.
    As is right and proper :)

    --
    Lozzo
    GSX-R1000 K1, GPZ500S, GSF600W
    BOTAFOT#57/70a, BOTAFOF#57, MIB#22, TCP#7,
    ANORAK#9, DIAABTCOD#14, UKRMT5BB, IBW#013, MIRTTH#15a/16,
    BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14, BONY#9, OMF#18.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 23, 2006
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
    Well, some bits put up a fight. Which was nice, because we got to play
    with some of my slightly more advanced tools. LH drill bits, you gotta
    love them...

    Fortunately, I've forgotten all about spotting the missed crankcase
    bolt, so no one else will ever know why the cases wouldn't part at first
    try. Ahem.
    Ho yuss.

    <wanders out for a quick surreptitious sniff>

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
    public toilet with the lid closed.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jan 23, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Lozzo was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    *class*
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 23, 2006
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