Parking a motorcycle on a Shefield Stand ! Comments wanted please

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by I Ballard, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. I Ballard

    I Ballard Guest

    OK, I need some advise on this one, let me send you to two photo's of the
    location before anyone answers my question !

    http://www.cmirrors.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parking/1.jpg

    http://www.cmirrors.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parking/2.jpg

    As you can see from these two pictures, the area I parked my motorcycle was
    next to the single upturned u bar thats embedded in the ground and fenced
    off from the general public, the motorcycle was not parked on the road, nor
    was it on the footpath (footway parking is on the ticket). The bike was not
    parked on the service hatches to the Telecoms boxes in the ground either !

    Now I want to know if the Warden was correct to issue a ticket for parking
    here ?

    Let me point out a few things as well, there was no sign saying no parking
    for motorcycles or cycles even though this single cycle parking bar is in
    the ground.

    The area is also fenced off, so the general public have to walk around it,
    so here it's not an obstruction to pedestrians.

    Info from here ( http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00038-ap.htm#271 )

    Stands etc. for bicycles or motor cycles.
    271. - (1) The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 is amended as follows.

    (2) In section 63 (power of authorities to provide stands and racks for
    bicycles), for "and racks for bicycles" substitute "or racks for, or devices
    for securing, bicycles or motor cycles".

    (3) In section 136(4) (meaning of "motor cycle"), for "section 57" substitue
    "sections 57 and 63".


    Info from http://www.mag-uk.org/publications/dtlr_ta_2002-2.pdf

    ORDER-MAKING
    The powers of authorities in England, Scotland and Wales in
    relation to the provision of stands and racks for bicycles is set out in
    Section 63 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. This was
    amended by the Transport Act 2000 (Section 271 [2]) and the
    Transport (Scotland) Act 2001 (Section 75 [2]) to "The powers of
    any authority under this Act to provide parking shall extend to
    providing, in roads or elsewhere, stands or racks for, or devices for
    securing, bicycles or motorcycles".

    Raised A horizontal bar is provided at a height of approximately 40-60 cm.
    This style is generally provided at the edge of the carriageway and again
    requires the user to use their own lock. This type can represent a trip
    hazard or impediment if installed along the edge of footways. Preferably,
    they should be integral with pedestrian railings or protected by other means
    to safeguard pedestrians, particularly people with impaired vision. Where
    high density parking is closely associated with pedestrian guard railings,
    users may need to put their hand through the vertical railings in order to
    reach the horizontal bar to use their locking cables. In such situations the
    width between the vertical bars of the railings should be approximately
    160mm.

    It is often not possible to pass a lock through a motorcycle frame. Hence
    any anchor point provided needs to be at a suitable height for locking the
    wheel.


    Sensible comments / options welcome.
     
    I Ballard, Oct 7, 2003
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  2. I Ballard

    Badger Guest

    You've got a lot of information, but although it *looks* like a
    cycle/motorcycle parking area, IMHO the one thing you've missed out is
    whether this was *intended* to be used as a cycle/motorcycle parking
    area.

    You might check with the local authority on that one, but be prepared
    to get passed around from department to department.
     
    Badger, Oct 7, 2003
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    The Vicar Guest

    If you are in the AA or RAC, contact them for legal support.

     
    The Vicar, Oct 7, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    If you are going to continue to post to uk.r.m., it would be nice if
    you would follow convention and place your post below the text to
    which you are replying, snipping irrelevant text and signatures.

    Look here: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmnetiquette.html

    Cheers
     
    Pip, Oct 7, 2003
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    The Vicar Guest

    Apologies Pip, I've seen this request before and usually do post as you
    suggest, but forgot on this occasion. I'll lay prone on the floor and beat
    myself with a twig.

    At least I now know how easy it is to get up your nose!

    John.
     
    The Vicar, Oct 7, 2003
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    Hog Guest

    No no, lie face down on the floor while we take turns to kick you in the
    ****.


    Your OE appears to be fully patched, Google for OE-Quotefix, download this
    small app and never be wrong again. It greatly improves the whole OE UKRM
    experience.
     
    Hog, Oct 7, 2003
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    AndrewR Guest

    Gosh! No! I'm mortally wounded.


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    AndrewR, Oct 7, 2003
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