Pauline to be freed.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Bill Matthews Jnr, Nov 6, 2003.

  1. She just won her appeal.
     
    Bill Matthews Jnr, Nov 6, 2003
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  2. **** off crossposting bitch!
     
    Aaron & Kylie, Nov 6, 2003
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  3. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Jeßus Guest

    Someone let
    <> loose on a computer... and the
    unfortunate result was:

    :: She just won her appeal.
    : [...]
    :
    : "I've seen a system that has failed [sic!] me and my concern is how
    : many other innocent women... and men that are actually behind bars
    : that shouldn't be there," Miss Hanson said.
    :
    : "I'm thinking seriously about this, that I'd like to put out a call to
    : retired solicitors, judges, legal people, to give up their time to
    : work
    : with me to speak to these people who have been wrongly imprisoned."

    I saw that on the ABC... she's certainly changed her tune. It appears that
    the whole saga has been quite a revelation for her.
     
    Jeßus, Nov 6, 2003
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  4. What sort of motorcycle will she be riding?

    Al

    "Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. "

    Remove *ME* before replying
     
    Alan Pennykid, Nov 6, 2003
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  5. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Peter Guest

    Few people get to spend time inside. There are any number of common
    preconceptions, probably promoted by TV and movies.

    You get to see how the system really works and how it fails those on the
    bottom.
     
    Peter, Nov 6, 2003
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  6. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Boxer Guest

    A Harley of course the Bike of choice for every Queensland Redneck.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 6, 2003
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  7. Bill Matthews Jnr

    fasgnadh Guest

    Amazing what a dose of reality can do to a loudmouth redneck populist
    celebrity who used to say this;

    "I'm sick of these do-gooders who are
    getting out there and saying these people
    [prisoners] must be rehabilitated."
    - Pauline Hanson 14/2/01 -


    B^D

    "Mandatory sentencing laws should remain,
    but jails should be tougher. "Stop making
    them as if they're holiday camps ... a jail is a
    prison and a form of punishment, not there to
    get you off the streets and
    get a roof over your head," she said.
    - Pauline Hanson 9/3/00 -


    "Hanson called for stricter sentences by
    the judiciary, and said judges should be sacked
    if they did not come down hard on criminals.
    Prisoners with TVs, gyms and
    "three square meals a day" had it too easy.
    "You've got to have punishment before
    rehabilitation," she said. "We can
    learn a lot from a country like Singapore."
    Asked "would you advocate floggings as they
    have in Singapore?", Ms Hanson said, "Oh, too right I
    would. Yes I would." - Pauline Hanson 23/8/01
     
    fasgnadh, Nov 6, 2003
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  8. Bill Matthews Jnr

    fasgnadh Guest

    She examined her inner sole, (and so did the wardens ;-)

    Now she is all bleeding heart, pro rehabilitation, teary and soft,
    then she was vitriolic, sharp, ignorant and harsh, I think prison
    has made a man of her!

    "Mandatory sentencing laws should remain,
    but jails should be tougher. "Stop making
    them as if they're holiday camps ... a jail is a
    prison and a form of punishment, not there to
    get you off the streets and
    get a roof over your head," she said.
    - Pauline Hanson 9/3/00 -

    She only spent a few weeks in jail and looked like a weeping wreck on TV.

    Not very tough, but at least she has learnt from the experience.

    "I'm sick of these do-gooders who are
    getting out there and saying these people
    [prisoners] must be rehabilitated."
    - Pauline Hanson 14/2/01 -

    Now it looks exactly like the bullshit and macho bravado it was!

    "Hanson called for stricter sentences by
    the judiciary, and said judges should be sacked
    if they did not come down hard on criminals.
    Prisoners with TVs, gyms and
    "three square meals a day" had it too easy.
    "You've got to have punishment before
    rehabilitation," she said. "We can
    learn a lot from a country like Singapore."
    Asked "would you advocate floggings as they
    have in Singapore?", Ms Hanson said, "Oh, too right I
    would. Yes I would." - Pauline Hanson 23/8/01

    Don't you just hate armchair experts whose experience is all
    from books and TV, 9mostly rabid right wing talkback radio) who
    pontificate punitice and divisive scapegoating twaddle until they
    get smacked in the face with a dose of reality, and start to show some
    basic humanity?


    Perhaps 6 months inside could smarten up Howard and the Front Bench?

    B^D

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    fasgnadh, Nov 6, 2003
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  9. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Walsingham Guest

     
    Walsingham, Nov 6, 2003
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  10. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Walsingham Guest

    definately not trueblue) fazfart?
     
    Walsingham, Nov 6, 2003
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  11. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Jeßus Guest

    Someone let
    Peter <> loose on a computer... and the unfortunate result
    was:

    : In article <3faa1328$0$1734$>,
    : says...
    :: I saw that on the ABC... she's certainly changed her tune. It
    :: appears that the whole saga has been quite a revelation for her.

    : Few people get to spend time inside. There are any number of common
    : preconceptions, probably promoted by TV and movies.

    Such as 'holiday resorts' etc...

    : You get to see how the system really works and how it fails those on
    : the bottom.

    Indeed... at least she has the benefit of a public profile and plenty of
    supporters.
    Pity all the other nobodies with no cash to buy their way out of a tight
    spot.

    Anyway, I'm hoping something positive comes out of this in some way... even
    if Hansen herself steps back into the political arena directly or
    indirectly.

    That doesn't mean I hold her in high regard (far from it) but we need more
    genuine ppl in the political scene... those that truly believe in what
    they're doing... and not all these heartless, inhuman and cynical dogsbodys
    of the rich/powerful.

    <rant over>
     
    Jeßus, Nov 6, 2003
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  12. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Jeßus Guest

    Someone let
    <> loose on a computer... and the
    unfortunate result was:

    :: Someone let
    :: <> loose on a computer... and
    :: the unfortunate result was:
    ::: In aus.politics Bill Matthews Jnr <>
    ::: wrote:
    :::: She just won her appeal.
    ::: [...]
    ::: "I've seen a system that has failed [sic!] me and my concern is how
    ::: many other innocent women... and men that are actually behind bars
    ::: that shouldn't be there," Miss Hanson said.
    ::: "I'm thinking seriously about this, that I'd like to put out a call
    ::: to retired solicitors, judges, legal people, to give up their time
    ::: to
    ::: work
    ::: with me to speak to these people who have been wrongly imprisoned."
    :: I saw that on the ABC... she's certainly changed her tune. It
    :: appears that the whole saga has been quite a revelation for her.

    : Oui, tres incredible.
    : Open a tote on when she'll be reversing herself? ;-)

    Its already happened by the looks of it... or do you mean she'll go back on
    her comments yesterday?
     
    Jeßus, Nov 6, 2003
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  13. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Jeßus Guest

    Someone let
    fasgnadh <> loose on a computer... and the unfortunate
    result was:

    : Amazing what a dose of reality can do to a loudmouth redneck populist
    : celebrity who used to say this;
    : "I'm sick of these do-gooders who are
    : getting out there and saying these people
    : [prisoners] must be rehabilitated."
    : - Pauline Hanson 14/2/01 -
    <snip>

    Quite a contrast to be sure :)
     
    Jeßus, Nov 6, 2003
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  14. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Jeßus Guest

    Someone let
    fasgnadh <> loose on a computer... and the unfortunate
    result was:

    : :: Someone let
    :: I saw that on the ABC... she's certainly changed her tune. It
    :: appears that the whole saga has been quite a revelation for her.

    : She examined her inner sole, (and so did the wardens ;-)

    :)

    : Now she is all bleeding heart, pro rehabilitation, teary and soft,
    : then she was vitriolic, sharp, ignorant and harsh, I think prison
    : has made a man of her!

    A dose of reality can do wonders... she got to see the other 'real
    Australia' that can be almost completely obscured from one's view...

    <snip>

    : She only spent a few weeks in jail and looked like a weeping wreck on
    : TV.

    What's funny is the amount of comments about how much more attractive she
    looked, not just here but on radio and elsewhere :)
    She's certainly not my cup of tea but I will admit she did indeed look much
    nicer... just goes to show that makeup can do a disservice.

    : Not very tough, but at least she has learnt from the experience.

    Yep. I'm hoping something good comes out of it in some way, it seems like
    one of those very rare opportunities to me. (I mean the legal/judicial
    system)

    : Perhaps 6 months inside could smarten up Howard and the Front Bench?

    I was just thinking about this funnily enough.
    I honestly believe that in Howard's case, sure it would shake him up big
    time... but it would do *nothing* as far as changing his attitude
    politically. He is a thoroughly unethical and cold hearted man who has not
    the slightest problem with any hypocrisies that he may have.
     
    Jeßus, Nov 6, 2003
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  15. Bill Matthews Jnr

    Peter Guest

    I'm sick of representatives whose only work experience consists of being a
    political staffer and whose only struggle is in how to be preselected for a
    safe seat.
     
    Peter, Nov 7, 2003
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  16. Bill Matthews Jnr

    fasgnadh Guest

    Hey, Washinghampster, when are you going to learn to use
    your newsreader software?

    (I'm sure it will happen before you ever have something to say ;-)

    Lets take the knife to Washinghampsters gibberish, fraudulently
    misrepresented as part of my text.

    (I don't mind being abused by rednecks for my witty and intelligent posts
    but I object to their tactics of trying to discredit me by misrepresenting
    their nonsense as my text! B^p )
    I didn't realise you had made it something to aspire too! How handy for
    you!

    I have never committed any acts which would land me in jail.
    And unlike Hanson, I have never even put myself in the position
    where 12 ordinary Queenslanders would believe me guilty, because
    there was evidence i had actually told One Nation supporters they
    were not party members in an attempt at "misinformation intended
    to confuse the membership and to entrench the Management"
    - Court proceedings
    http://www.courts.qld.gov.au/qjudgment/QCA 2003/QCA03-488.pdf

    The proceedings show that the appeal court held it was a reasonable
    'inference's
    that if Hanson and Ettridge provided a list to the Electoral commission,
    then
    that list constituted members. They chose to ignore the explicit statements
    of Hanson and Ettridge themselves, that those listed were NOT members;

    " The evidence of statements made by Ettridge and Hanson suggesting
    that those who applied to be members of Pauline Hanson's One Nation did not
    become members of the party but of the support group, was not evidence of
    the objective intention of the parties at the time of contracting to join
    the
    unincorporated association, the political party, Pauline Hanson's One
    Nation."

    The reason given for ignoring what looks like an admission?
    The court held that Hanson and Ettridge were spreading " misinformation
    intended to confuse the membership and to entrench the Management"

    B^D There admissions were set aside as lies made to the One Nation
    sheeple to dupe the stupid morons! B^D
     
    fasgnadh, Nov 7, 2003
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  17. Bill Matthews Jnr

    conehead Guest

    There was a bunch of 'em.
     
    conehead, Nov 7, 2003
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