Petseal etc.

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by sweller, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    The standard Moto Guzzi fuel leak from behind the badges - this time it's
    only slight so what are the tank sealers of the moment?
     
    sweller, Jun 6, 2010
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  2. sweller

    Pete Fisher Guest

    POR15 worked well for me on the ancient Puch moped tank used on the
    Forgotten Error, but it wasn't actually leaking, just very, very rusty
    and flaky internally.

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    Pete Fisher, Jun 6, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Yep, POR15 is good stuff.
    I repaired one sieve^Wtank with it and it held nicely.
    Nowadays I give a precautionary dose to any tank that looks even a tad
    rusty on the inside.
    It is important to get the worst of the rust out first and make sure
    it is completly dry. I use about a pintmug of small gravel and shake
    until my arms hurt, others suggest nuts&bolts. Always remove all
    petcocks, drains, etc first.
     
    crn, Jun 6, 2010
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  4. sweller

    sweller Guest

    This stuff?
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/220616796686

    Is it just the single tin?
     
    sweller, Jun 6, 2010
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  5. sweller

    crn Guest

    Indeed.
    Thats the one, same supplier as I use.
     
    crn, Jun 6, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    As has been mentioned before, make sure the tank is as clean inside as
    humanly possble. I've always favoured the cheap coke or phosphoric acid
    method over filling the tank with nuts and bolts or gravel.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2010
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  7. sweller

    Beav Guest

    And try getting all the sand or stones out if there's an anti-splash filler
    neck which sits deeper into the tank further than the top of it.
     
    Beav, Jun 6, 2010
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  8. sweller

    Lozzo Guest

    There is that to think about too, but it was crn who suggested it, so
    only those who deserve the pain would have listened to him
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2010
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  9. sweller

    crn Guest

    Never had a problem - the stones shake out easily.
    Then it gets a washout first with petrol then with thinner.
     
    crn, Jun 6, 2010
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  10. sweller

    Pete Fisher Guest

    I got a kit from Frosts including 'Marine Clean' and 'Metal Ready Rust
    remover' for preparation.

    Their Motorcycle kit comes with an 8 oz tin of the POR15 sealer, which
    they also list separately on their web site for just £9.50 - except that
    it is currently showing as out of stock.
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    Pete Fisher, Jun 7, 2010
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  11. sweller

    Beav Guest

    Indeed and it would cause considerable pain too.
     
    Beav, Jun 7, 2010
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  12. sweller

    Beav Guest

    What utter bollocks. If you can tell me how to make stones (every last one
    of them) successfully jump up and out of a fucking tank with an anti-splash
    filler, I'll arrange for someone to come and give you a fucking blow job.
     
    Beav, Jun 7, 2010
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  13. sweller

    Ace Guest

    This is just great - he must be up to three or four a week by now.
    Keep it up, crn!
     
    Ace, Jun 7, 2010
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  14. sweller

    Ace Guest

    Have you stopped to consider what it is that beav does for a living?
     
    Ace, Jun 7, 2010
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  15. sweller

    Beav Guest

    Define "eventually". Is your eventually when the bottom of the tank fall
    off through rust?
    I'm sure you do and I'm equally sure it works perfectly too.
    Well why would you, you've got some free stones.
     
    Beav, Jun 8, 2010
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  16. sweller

    Beav Guest

    Maybe I should just post him some pictures of the tanks I've descaled,
    treated, sealed and painted, none of which have been a problem since they
    were done? Actually, I don't think I'll bother.
    [/QUOTE]
     
    Beav, Jun 8, 2010
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  17. sweller

    Beav Guest

    I use a product called "Flowliner" for the final sealing and although it's a
    fucking **** of a job to get it everywhere (time really and arm ache rather
    than ball ache) once it's in, it's in forever.

    It's a 2 pack product which is both ratio dependent (product to catalyst)
    and *very* temperature dependent.

    The "left overs" in the mixing cup sets like granite.
     
    Beav, Jun 8, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    Speaking of free stones gives me an idea, because here's a great
    example of turning adversity to advantage. Loz could have a whole new
    methodology available to him: he could drink the coke, then piss it out
    into the tank. Hey presto, instant rust-abrading mixture - the
    phosphoric acid in the coke and a couple of kidney stones into the
    bargain.

    It could cut down the amount of shaking required considerably.
     
    SIRPip, Jun 8, 2010
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Beav
    Well why would you, you've got some free stones.[/QUOTE]

    "Keep banging the rocks together, guys."
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 8, 2010
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  20. sweller

    crn Guest

    No problem, both methods work. Personal choice innit.
     
    crn, Jun 8, 2010
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