photos from Elefant (CSP)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Bonwick, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. For a 2000 mile journey in winter I really am happier carrying enough
    'stuff' to keep me going should something fail; fuses, bulbs, electrical
    connectors, spare cables, nuts, bolts, cable ties, gaffa tape and wire.

    However having done this trip three times now I've only needed to carry
    out a repair on my bike once; which was due to a bad electrical
    connection to the fuel pump... that I knew about before I left.
     
    stephen.packer, Feb 6, 2010
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  2. Andy Bonwick

    Steve Guest

    Doesn't getting foreigners on mopeds to go fetch brake pads count?

    Steve
     
    Steve, Feb 6, 2010
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  3. Andy Bonwick

    Lozzo Guest

    So you could have just left with the original spare fuses if you'd
    fixed it before you went?

    My point entirely - if your bike is reliable to start with and
    maintained correctly you shouldn't need to carry that sort of shit with
    you.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 6, 2010
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  4. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I took plenty of tools and spares but I didn't take any electrical
    repair stuff even though I knew that was the weak point.

    I think that between us we probably had tools or spares to cover any
    eventuality but the problem was that we didn't all travel together. I
    had an emergency control cable kit, a puncture/tyre inflation kit,
    easy start, WD4O, a half-decent tool kit that would have been enough
    to carry out most maintenance tasks, cable ties, gaffer tape,
    insulating tape, plastic metal, 2-pack epoxy glue plus a few other
    sundries but no fucking connectors.

    I reckon that I had the equivalent of half a pannier of things I
    really didn't need but if you can carry it then why leave it at home?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 6, 2010
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  5. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    What's reliable?

    I'd love to know how you can predict a failure if you've had your bike
    serviced regularly, had a dealer assure you that they've sorted out a
    warranty issue and you've spent a few days preparing the bike for the
    trip.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 6, 2010
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  6. Andy Bonwick

    Lozzo Guest

    Damn poor show considering two Italian built bikes were going.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 6, 2010
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  7. Andy Bonwick

    Lozzo Guest

    My bike's reliable because it's never broken down or needed to be
    recovered. Yours has had enough issues for me to be concerned about it
    failing again if it were mine.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 6, 2010
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  8. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    I'm not really concerned, more like fucking annoyed that so far two
    Yamaha dealers have lied about repairing it.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 6, 2010
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  9. Andy Bonwick

    darsy Guest

    but that's what it's called. The notion that it's only a "Jack" when
    flying from the back of a navy ship is spurious.

    Though I'm not claiming to be a vexillology expert.
     
    darsy, Feb 6, 2010
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  10. I just popped into my local dealer, and they were looking at a fucked
    Derbi Mulhacen, which has the same Tenere lump as yours.

    The gear selector shaft had just snapped on it. Christ knows how. They
    shoved a new shaft in, and discovered that the episode had left it with
    only three gears. Expensive.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 6, 2010
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    Ace Guest

     
    Ace, Feb 6, 2010
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    darsy Guest

    darsy, Feb 6, 2010
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  13. Oh, that wasn't on the Elefant and, to be fair here, that was due to my
    sloppy maintenance not the bike failing.
     
    stephen.packer, Feb 6, 2010
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  14. Don't agree completely. When you're riding old shit there's a chance
    something's going to fail unless you've preventatively maintained it and
    replaced hoses etc. 'just in case'.

    Plus there's always the risk of needing to replace damaged parts by
    crashing.
     
    stephen.packer, Feb 6, 2010
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  15. Andy Bonwick

    Lozzo Guest

    Crash repairs are lways worth accounting for by taking spare levers and
    a roll of duct tape etc. As for riding older shite, if you've got the
    dosh and the inclination to do long distances, buy a newer and known to
    be reliable bike in the first place.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 6, 2010
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  16. Andy Bonwick

    Fr Jack Guest

    Bo-ring!

    Removes a whole aspect of the journey - the uncertainty factor. For an
    awful lot of people that's part of the fun. It can be what makes the
    journey interesting.
     
    Fr Jack, Feb 6, 2010
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  17. Andy Bonwick

    Ace Guest

    Red Ensign for merchant ships, blue if the skipper was RN(V)R, white
    for RN ships. But that's all irrelevant, as the jack staff, where the
    union jack would be flown, is actually on the bow of the ship, not the
    stern. We used to fly the P&O flag on it, IIRC, but only when in port.
    It's only a little thing anyway, as opposed to the ensign.
     
    Ace, Feb 6, 2010
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  18. Andy Bonwick

    darsy Guest

    actually, reasonably interesting and informative. Unusual for you, but
    well done ;-)
     
    darsy, Feb 6, 2010
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  19. Andy Bonwick

    crn Guest

    Except that the usage of the Blue and White Ensigns is rather more
    complicated and has little to do with the volunteer reserve.
    No - I am NOT going to try to get it right, it is complicated.
     
    crn, Feb 6, 2010
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  20. Andy Bonwick

    DR Guest

    posted:
    As I understand it, it's fairly simple. White Ensign = Royal Navy. If
    Royal Naval Reserve are on active service, they are considered Royal
    Navy, and therefore fly the White Ensign. If not on active service,
    they are civilians, subject to International Law of the Sea as regards
    ship colours if afloat (nationality of ship registration). Royal Fleet
    Auxiliary fly the White Ensign under conditions of war. Blue Ensign =
    Royal Fleet Auxiliary in peacetime. Red Ensign = merchant ship
    registered to a UK port (about 400 at last count).
     
    DR, Feb 7, 2010
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