Ping Pip.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. Krusty

    Pete Fisher Guest

    I'm not totally surprised by the result. Presumably these race cans are
    simple absorption type 'silencers' with a perforated tube surrounded by
    packing. I'm sure Pip has had success with this strategy, but I wouldn't
    have thought just a 'twirl' would achieve a great deal as it's not
    actually increasing the area for absorption IYSWIM. TBC may be able to
    confirm whether it would significantly slow the speed of passage of the
    exhaust gas slug or not. Too much like proper fizziks for me.

    It would certainly have passed the old police noise test at Mallory in
    the old days. A copper on duty at the car park exit would pull over
    particularly noisy bikes and stick something akin to an army officer's
    swagger stick [1] up your reverse cone mega. If it hit something you
    passed, if not you were in trouble.

    The extra bit on the Nordwest's FPM race can also significantly reduced
    the outlet diameter and had a short length of pipe with a blanked off
    end and several holes drilled in it. Probably a bit like the db killers
    you already have I suspect.

    It made a huge difference to the noise level. It also significantly
    fucked up the gas flow unfortunately. I never bothered to get the
    jetting right for the road. although it was OK if you didn't give it a
    big handful at low revs in a high gear. I found that, as Frigerio had
    predicted it went so much better without it.

    The silencer on my old SWM achieved extra efficiency by having two
    perforated pipes in the muffler (and two outlets). Which reminds me that
    I recently found it in the shed and must list it on Ebay.

    [1] No connection with the 'cock' joke on 'First Light' last night.
    Looks not that unlike a wooden drumstick. I still have my father's in
    the loft.


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    Pete Fisher, Sep 15, 2010
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  2. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    They are indeed.
    I couldn't figure out how it would work, but as you say, it seems to
    have done so for Pip. I believe he said a 'perceived' reduction in
    sound though, so don't know if he ever measured the results. I'm sure
    he'll be along at some point.
    No, they're just smaller bits of straight through pipe with a flange
    round the outside to stop the gasses sneaking past. They knock 3db off
    so quite effective. I've tried putting a bit of flat bar sticking out
    the end & bent over[1] to stop the gasses having 'line of sight', which
    knocked another 1db off.
    I'm trying to get this sorted so I can book it in for a dyno session to
    map the PCIII. I'd be happy with 98db at 5k as that opens up more scope
    for trackdays. Should be able to do that without screwing up the gas
    flow with a bit more tweaking.

    [1] I mean the flat bar's bent over, not me.
     
    Krusty, Sep 15, 2010
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    HTH.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 15, 2010
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  4. IME most RSMs in the (Australian) army had two swagger sticks --
    the second was ramrodded up their arse! The one who didn't was a lovely
    chap and a good teacher -- and died of malaria in Vietnam.

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    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Sep 17, 2010
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