Pity...

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Diogenes, Oct 20, 2008.

  1. Diogenes

    theo Guest

    I seem to have a glimmer that I once saw a car with ATE brakes.
    Possibly the Aussie built Mercedes models. They set up a facility to
    assemble Mercs here in the late '50s, turning out the early 111
    series. (For you non-numeric people, that's the model with the little
    fins on the rear corners). I have an ID plate in my shed from one of
    these, chassis number 00002.

    Theo
     
    theo, Oct 24, 2008
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    Nigel Allen Guest

    Whilst living off the fat of the land.

    (Apologies - espresso level nearing critical minimum )

    N/
     
    Nigel Allen, Oct 24, 2008
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    mrhankey Guest

    On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:47:54 +1100, CrazyCam wrote:


    [...]
    That's what I love about Usenet - you learn stuff that didn't think
    you wanted to know.
     
    mrhankey, Oct 24, 2008
  4. +1. Us Yugos call it a "nilski konj", lit "Nile horse". Ze Germans
    split the difference; "Nilpferd" and "Flusspferd" are both
    permissible...
     
    intact.kneeslider, Oct 24, 2008
  5. I'd pay money for a copy of a magazine containing an Alan Cathcart
    writeup in which the word "pwn" appears.

    Actually, **** that; I'm way (wai?) too tight for that... I'd be more
    inclined to try to talk the staff of a bikemag syndicating Cathcart
    into livening up his dessicated prose by inserting "pwn" into it.

    ....and if he makes some reference to the bike's performance when the
    engine's revving past nine grand, well, that'd just be gravy, wouldn't
    it?
     
    intact.kneeslider, Oct 24, 2008
  6. When we had the Striple on test a month ago (review up at
    [shamelessplug]http://www.dailybike.com/reviews/triumph/2008/2008-
    triumph-speed-triple.asp[/shamelessplug]), I consciously thought to
    myself "you know who'd like this... Clem. This is a Clem kind of bike.
    If I got one of these, I'd call it 'The Big Clembowski".

    The whole bike is actually quite compact, but the cockpit area is
    *vast* - no wonder they come in pearlescent white, the colour of
    stretch limousines. I was lost aboard the thing for the first day or
    two - literally didn't know what to do with all the room... consider
    that statement in the context of my size, if you will. For someone
    whose formative motorcycling years would've been spent on litre-plus
    UJM's, the Striple is like a swirl down the time tunnel.

    This, I reckon, would've been a big factor in why a smaller bloke such
    as yourself would've found it, as you say, "cumbersome"; there's just
    too much cockpit to rattle around in. If you're built more in
    proportion with the bike, you can really boss it around, and once
    you've found the delta-function-narrow damping sweet spot, there's
    serious corner speed to be had, but it's held back by the lazy motor.
    The crank's too heavy; great for traction, but it just doesn't spool
    up fast enough to really fire the bike out of corners. That's the
    exact opposite of the Triplet, which strikes a much better balance
    there. With something more upmarket in place of the bouncy-castle
    suspension of the base model, which costs it a bit on entry and at the
    apex, the Triplet would be *the* performance naked... until a KTM
    Superduke showed up.
    "That's just sportsbike riders for you," said the bloke who just
    received an R1 Ohlins rear in this morning's mail...
     
    intact.kneeslider, Oct 24, 2008
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    knobdoodle Guest

    I met up with Daron once at a race meeting and I was chatting away for
    a while before he pointed down to alert me to Bren who had been
    standing between us trying to get my attention!
     
    knobdoodle, Oct 24, 2008
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    Boxer Guest

    I met up with Daron once at a race meeting and I was chatting away for
    a while before he pointed down to alert me to Bren who had been
    standing between us trying to get my attention!
    --
    Clem

    Sounds like the perfect size for a woman.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Oct 24, 2008
  9. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    That's probably a minority view (seriously), I've heard a number of
    people saying they'd love to buy a Norge but they are too small for
    them, and you're the first one I've read saying that the Norge would be
    better if it was a bit smaller.

    It's about the right size for me and I'm only 5' 8" (shortish for a guy)
    so it probably is on a the smaller size edge for a modern bike.

    But it's about time someone built a bike that wasn't designed for tall
    lanky buggers (which more and more they seem to be doing).


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 24, 2008
  10. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    Nah... there are plenty of Japanese cruisers with low seats around (many
    of which ride quite well).

    Personally I don't mind the Yamaha XVS1100 (the motor in which is based
    on the old 1100 Virago) so it's air cooled and feels like a
    traditional(ish) v-twin motor.

    The smaller XVS650 is very popular and the VT750 Honda is always high on
    the cruiser top 10 sales list as well.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 24, 2008
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    Yeebok Guest

    It's sorta a combo of typo and slang. Depending you can view it as an
    abbreviation of 'pawn' but in reality it's more a case of a mistyped
    'own' in terms of 'far superior to'.

    eg when you headshot some poor sap every time you see him for most of a
    round of whatever, you can safely say you pwned him.
     
    Yeebok, Oct 24, 2008
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    GB Guest

    They specialise in "mathematical and computational finance and
    numerical methods for stochastic differential equations", apparently.

    (I've no idea WTF that means mind you!)


    GB
     
    GB, Oct 24, 2008
  13. Diogenes

    GB Guest

    No, that's not what it means at all.
    No, that's not what it means at all.


    GB
     
    GB, Oct 24, 2008
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    bikerbetty Guest

    I've never met Bren but I like her already. Vertically-challenged peeps like
    us need to stand strong. I wonder just how many of us it would take for bike
    manufacturers to actually take notice???

    See, I reckon the problem is that too many SHORT riders (mostly male) don't
    arc up about tall bikes - I suspect the Small Man Syndrome prohibits it.
    Ever since I started riding (gee, a whole 3 years now...) I've maintained if
    enough of us complained/grovelled/begged nicely, the bike manufacturers
    might take notice, and start looking at making grunty sportsbikes for the
    vertically-challenged. My main obstacle has always been the Small Man
    market, which seems too proud to admit that tall bikes can be a problem for
    short people. Sure, riding a too-tall bike is possible - with a bit
    (actually, quite a LOT) of effort and confidence, but it's just MEAN. I love
    riding so much, but I can only DREAM of the comfortable, thoughtless,
    effortless aspects of parking etc that go with being a decent height...

    I guess one of the issues is that shortness is generally associated with
    being female - and female riders are such a minority within the total riding
    population that they are seen as "negligible" as a market group. If more of
    the MALE sector of the vertically-challenged sportsbike rider population
    decided to demand shorter bikes for shorter riders, instead of being so
    bloody stoic, we might have a hope in hell of actually achieving something.
    The manufacturers might actually stat listening..... (or am I just dreaming
    again....?)

    betty
     
    bikerbetty, Oct 24, 2008
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    Moike Guest

    Just in case you haven't seen it, the Short Bike List had some useful
    stuff. I suspect it is no longer updated.

    http://tinyurl.com/shortbikelist

    Moike
     
    Moike, Oct 24, 2008
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    G-S Guest

    G-S, Oct 24, 2008
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yeah but she doesn't have a flat head.
     
    Knobdoodle, Oct 24, 2008
  18. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    I'm trying to think where they would they use stochastic differential
    equations in financial analysis but...

    maybe be the stock market? *confused look*. [1]


    G-S

    [1] I can't see it having much place in company accounting!
     
    G-S, Oct 24, 2008
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    JL Guest

    Errmm OK, that's not exactlyy what he said, I'm translating OK ?
    Errrmmm yeah he does do that

    JL
    (sinking fast he suspects)
     
    JL, Oct 24, 2008
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    bikerbetty Guest

    Thanks Moike - yeah, have devoured the Short Bike List on more than one
    occasion. I think it's brilliant for a biking culture that accepts Things
    Won't Ever Change for us shorties - but I would like to think that there are
    enough of us shorties around to be a sizeable chunk of the market, with a
    voice (if only we could get short blokes on board who were willing to admit
    that big bikes are hard work and they'd actually prefer something physically
    smaller!!!That would be a huge culture-shift though...)

    I don't want short people to cave and say "ok, we can only handle cruisers
    or 125 sportsbikes". I'm short and I want a sporty bike, dammit - and I do
    big kms, so I don't want anything under 600cc for those distances. I bet
    there are vast numbers of riders like me who would just LOVE to be riding
    the bikes they're riding even MORE if they were built for peeps a couple of
    inches shorter!

    betty
     
    bikerbetty, Oct 24, 2008
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