Pity...

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Diogenes, Oct 20, 2008.

  1. Diogenes

    CrazyCam Guest

    bikerbetty wrote:

    An awful lot! ..and you'd need to be organised, and, hardest of all
    amongst bike riders, you'd need to agree on what you wanted.
    A few years back, now, Honda in Europe went through their sales figures
    and decided that they weren't selling Hondas to women in the numbers
    they expected.

    So they picked a person to do some testing and research..... a bloke. :-(

    Now, he was quite a short bloke, but, with that kind of attitude,
    <shrug> what can you expect.

    Also, as an aside, they found that most countries, most women complained
    about bikes being too tall. Except Italy. Subsequent research found that
    Italian ladies, riding bikes, wore high-heeled boots. :)

    To be fair, "they" do make small bikes, just not ones like you want.

    Anyone who claims a Baby Blade is comfy and is over 5'4" is a liar.

    R1100R and R850R BMW's have a possible seat height of 760 mm.

    Triumph Bonnies and Guzzi Brevas have neat low seats.

    None of these bikes are actually slow.

    Most of my bike riding life, because of a stuffed back, I have not been
    able to ride (for any length of time) a fully faired sports bike, but
    have had to look for bikes which allowed me to sit fairly upright.

    Should I rail against the bike makers for not building a bike to suit
    me, or should I get on with it enjoying riding what I can ride?

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 24, 2008
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  2. Diogenes

    Boxer Guest

    I too have a stuffed back buggered knees etc (chopper prang Army), I buy a
    bike I want to ride and modify it to suit my needs.

    Boxer (175 cm so average height for a short person).
     
    Boxer, Oct 25, 2008
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  3. Diogenes

    bikerbetty Guest

    LOL, yeah - that bit I certainly understand :)
    I looked into having my bike boots built up after a fellow shortarse in
    Canberra told me she'd had hers done - just a centimetre would do the trick,
    I reckon - alas, Mr Minit tells me the moulded soles on my boots don't lend
    themselves to that sort of treatment. Heel inserts in the boots don't help
    either (I actually have tried a few options, as well as having had my bike
    lowered an inch - I'm not just whingeing for the sake of whingeing.)
    or can afford.... :-( I like the look of the Guzzi Breva but it's way too
    expensive pour moi...
    Both! ;-) A good whinge can be very therapeutic!

    betty
     
    bikerbetty, Oct 25, 2008
  4. Diogenes

    Nigel Allen Guest

    Oh yeah! The Joy of Camping (with the obligatory rocket launcher of course).

    Nigel (aka "Tinkerbell" on TF CTF)
     
    Nigel Allen, Oct 25, 2008
  5. Diogenes

    Yeebok Guest

    I'm usually the poor sap. No patience for camping :|
     
    Yeebok, Oct 25, 2008
  6. Diogenes

    CrazyCam Guest

    bikerbetty wrote:


    Oh, well... try anything at least once......

    Back in the days of my youth I wanted to be a famous race car driver,
    then I found out that they didn't make single seat race cars with
    ashtrays, ciggie lighters and stubby holders.

    What a bastard act, eh?

    How do they expect folk to drive round and round the same boring old
    circuit without a smoke or two, and a beer or two?

    (Gads....you were right, Betty, feel a lot better now.)

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 25, 2008
  7. Diogenes

    bikerbetty Guest

    Mongrels! Absolutely scandalous..

    Almost as scandalous as the price of ladies' underwear - the less fabric
    there is, the more expensive the knickers.... how does THAT work?

    And schoolkids who use up a two-person seat (one seat for them, one seat for
    their schoolbag) while there are grown-ups standing...

    And then there are those telemarketers called Angus or Elizabeth, who phone
    you from Delhi just as you're getting dinner ready...
    Told you so ;-)

    betty, feeling all serene and catharticated, heh heh (cathartified?)
     
    bikerbetty, Oct 25, 2008
  8. Diogenes

    CrazyCam Guest

    bikerbetty wrote:


    Quite well, I think.

    I may be wrong, it was a long time ago. :)

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 25, 2008
  9. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    Strangely interesting yes... it *almost* makes sense :)


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 25, 2008
  10. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    Maybe they are Bean Pole type tall...

    my mate who's more the brick outhouse type tall doesn't fit in the
    riders seat properly.

    That can be a problem with shaped seats and middle age spread ;-)



    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 25, 2008
  11. Diogenes

    jl Guest

    Hey it's a nice dream.
    Well if you could actually muster hordes together you might have a
    chance (and therein lies the rub)

    Yeah I am. I think you need to talk to BT or Cam or someone if you want
    to find the nice one on ausmoto, 'cos it sure ain't me !

    JL
     
    jl, Oct 25, 2008
  12. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    That's odd... (seriously).

    I am on the balls of my feet on an SV650 but easily flat foot an XVS1100
    (or XVS650).

    Maybe flexibility (or lack thereof) is also part of the picture...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 25, 2008
  13. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    Geez... it's the 00's.

    They have prosthetic trays for that problem these days!


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 25, 2008
  14. Diogenes

    G-S Guest

    They won't much (as you pointed out), but they don't build bikes to suit
    5'7" people either... they build most of them them to 5'9" to about 6'1"
    people.

    Everyone else is to one side or the other of the design brief...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Oct 25, 2008
  15. Diogenes

    jl Guest

    Yes, you are quite correct - getting the rider weight forward and higher
    gives better tip in characteristics. For a sports bike you want the
    weight forward biased - given the wheels are at each end, basic geometry
    shows that means it has to be above at an angle to put more weight
    forward than what is naturally distributed if all the weight were in a
    single line between the two axle points. Errm did that makes sense ?
    Imagine a triangle. If it's not equilateral then weight on the top point
    will be placed more on the shorter side.

    Given that the "natural" layout predisposes a bike to being rear heavy
    you have to go to some trouble to get the weight forward.
    Modern sticky tyres would go a long way towards giving it some fairly
    serious lean angles, trouble is you won't get them in 19" rims (i'm
    assuimg that's what it runs ?)

    JL
     
    jl, Oct 25, 2008
  16. Diogenes

    jl Guest

    Dunno about auto trading but I can confirm a number of the dealing rooms
    in this country use monte carlo simulations for valuing derivatives and
    shares and using that to make trading decisions

    JL
     
    jl, Oct 25, 2008
  17. Diogenes

    jl Guest

    <grin> No just less patient ;-)

    JL
    (and more inclined to actually type what I say to the screen)
     
    jl, Oct 25, 2008
  18. In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:24:56 +1100
    It's running the stickiest you can get, which is what the classic
    racers use.

    It's hard to tell subjectively but I don't think I can get it as far
    over as I've had modern bikes.

    Tyre profile shows that you don't get the huge angles before falling
    off the tread.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 25, 2008
  19. Diogenes

    GB Guest

    There's a nice one? Burn the bastard!


    GB
     
    GB, Oct 25, 2008
  20. I didn't say it wouldn't require a bit of a recalibration on your part.
    It'd still be your kind of bike.
     
    IK Laboratories, Oct 25, 2008
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