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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by 998cc, Sep 29, 2007.

  1. I suppose. I'm clocking about 6k annually on the BMW, 3k on the Ducati,
    and another 3k on the other stuff.

    That's not as much as last year, because this summer has been so wet in
    the UK, and I used the car more than usual on my 40-mil-each-way
    commute.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2007
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    Pikey Joe Guest

    Hey, that's a low blow!
     
    Pikey Joe, Sep 30, 2007
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  3. Except that in the US, you can learn on any bike of any capacity, and
    people get a bit confused when they discover that a cuddly 900cc Honda
    will actually out-accelerate *any* car on the road.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2007
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  4. Ah yes. I forgot that a Presidential election was looming.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2007
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    Catman Guest

    Oh, *arse*

    **** off, English ****.....



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    Catman, Sep 30, 2007
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    Cane Guest

    Hey Russ, how many guns do you own?
     
    Cane, Sep 30, 2007
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    s/any/most of them/

    There's some pretty hairy road legal four-wheeled stuff out in the US...
     
    Timo Geusch, Sep 30, 2007
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    sweller Guest

    I shall pray to our Lord for your friend Isaac and hope the sweet baby
    Jesus will preserve us all.
     
    sweller, Sep 30, 2007
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    Eiron Guest

    This is bureaucracy gone mad. Is it really any safer than the old system
    where you were familiar with the highway code and skillful at riding
    up to 30mph by the age of 17 after several years of riding a pushbike,
    then you got a 250cc Superdream, and when you passed the test you bought
    a real motorbike?
     
    Eiron, Sep 30, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    If working well means "it's so fucking hard to get a license then I
    don't think I'll bother" then I'd agree with you. Bikes have become
    another middle class, middle age pastime due to the actions of the UK
    government in the early 80s.
     
    deadmail, Sep 30, 2007
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    sweller Guest

    I didn't take the CBT and I'm still here.
     
    sweller, Sep 30, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    *sigh*

    Yet again you're being a fucking know-it-all.

    You weren't there Nick, others were.
     
    deadmail, Sep 30, 2007
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    deadmail Guest

    Only if you were a tosser[1][2].

    Otherwise you were familiar with riding at speeds up to a (claimed)
    60mph (probably 45), bought a Yamaha RD350 and put 250 sidepanels on
    it/bought a Yamaha RD250 and put 350 barrels and heads on it, passed
    your test and then bought some old fucking nail of a CB750, GS750, XS650
    (or heaven help you 750) or a Z/H kwack[3].

    But your point is well made. Yes, the mortality was a little higher
    (possibly didn't matter, we weren't losing many brain surgeons) but most
    people made it through with a few scrapes/breaks. I think the strategy
    was to get bikes off the road and I think it worked, you don't see many
    being used as transport (at least I don't) these days; they're all toys.

    [1] All 16er specials did over 50; at least before they restricted them.
    [2] No one in their right mind would buy a superdream.
    [3] Or, at least something like that.
     
    deadmail, Sep 30, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    The CBT isn't a bad thing. Direct access is the biggest load of
    bollocks anyone's ever come up with regarding motorbike training.

    By making a gradual route up the bike riding ladder such a long winded
    and boring process but offering a short cut around it so a few hours
    on a school bike (1) and a short practical test means you can go from
    never having owned a bike to having whatever you can afford to buy and
    insure you increase the odds of new riders seriously injuring
    themselves.

    (1) Like a 500cc twin gives you the basics of riding a 160mph sports
    bike.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Sep 30, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    <cough>

    DAS.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Sep 30, 2007
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    Rick Guest

    [1] Yeah like my mates FS1E which indicated 45mph with me running alongside
    it.
    [2] I bought a 250N and crashed it the first night I legally rode it on the
    M1. This was a public duty AFAIAC. But I still rate the 400N.

    The argument for the introduction of compulsory training is fundamentally
    the same as the one for drug prohibition.
    "To protect the numpties from themselves"
    You may well have ridden a 350 with 250 markings (and good luck to you) but
    if you went around bragging to all and sundry (as you do) somebody less
    able, sooner or later, was bound to be influenced and over-reach IYSWIM. The
    legislation is as much for them as anyone else. So I disagree that the
    strategy was to get bikes off the road. More like 'get more XR2s and Novas
    on the road'
    :)
     
    Rick, Sep 30, 2007
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    Ben Guest

    Not a lot different from the old part 1 and 2 test though is it?

    I did a CBT, then I did a test on a 125. I was then licenced for
    anything.
     
    Ben, Sep 30, 2007
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  18. Nice one.
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    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 30, 2007
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  19. Agree, agree.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2007
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  20. At this point, I feel honour bound to mention that Zymurgy has five.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2007
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