Polititics and Motorcycles

Quite a few (at least a couple) of the posters on this newsgroup have
taken offense to Off Topic postings, by me.. Noticeably these "topic"
monitors are Bush supporters and will engage in any off topic subject,
except the hard hitting, anti Bush rhetoric.. Anyone, riding a motorcycle,
OR NOT, who isn't capable of making the connection between politics and the
freedoms we enjoy, is not conscious of the reality of our times.. If you
enjoy the freedom to ride your motorcycle down a long stretch of highway,
with the wind in your face, WITHOUT the constrictions of wearing a helmet,
doesn't appreciate or understand the fights that were waged over the years
by people who were politically active.. That is only one example.. There are
many.. Politics affect almost every aspect of all our daily lives.. Enjoy
the fellowship amongst other bikers, on this newsgroup, in rallies and other
gatherings of your brothers and sisters of the Biker lifestyle.. Then ,
consider , all that can be taken from you by the stroke of a pen.. In the
atmosphere being created, as we speak, it is more of a reality each day..
You don't like my posts, then, by all means, don't read them.. If you value
the freedoms and liberties I have mentioned, you might be well advised to
pay attention to some of what I have to say.. You are much closer to reality
than you care to believe.. With regards and respect..

Your friend in Irving
Bill Walker

 

Wasn't referring to any posts in particular..

"Crouching Tiger Hidden

If you take my posts personal, maybe you should examine your own responses..
I don't recall directing any of my posts to you .. Your responses have been
met with opposition, if that is personal to you, then I reiterate, maybe you
should examine your own reactions..



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Very commendable comment.. Not so impressive as you may think..

There you have it.. My viewpoints are in opposition to the Bush/Republican
strategies and who you trust is a matter of your own conscience..

For the most part, the helmet law was opposed by a group of men, in this
state and others who subscribe to the principles of the democratic, for the
most part.. I will point out that quite a few republican brothers and
sisters participated in the effort .. Where were you and what did you
contribute ?? The gun thing is another issue .. but, I'll say that was
another joint effort by both republican and democratic brothers and
sisters.. What was your contribution to that effort ?? Motorcyclists from
all over this nation are active, politically.. Some republican and some
democrat.. Again.. I will reiterate, if my posts offend you , DON'T READ
THEM.. chances are, they will be controversial.. If you respond to them, I
will answer.. If you don't like that, **** OFF, Mr. Beemer Biker... LOL

Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.

 

I chose not to respond to your post until you pursued it into another
thread.. First, I will say this to you and clarify... I have ridden more
motorcycle miles under more varied conditions than most and am still in
possession of all my limbs.. I have posted on this newsgroup for a number of
years now and will continue to do so.. I have accomplished the above without
any advice or assistance from you or many like you.. Your opposition to my
postings are very telling.. You obviously are a "come lately" and "wannabe"
biker, who wishes to belong.. That is fine with me and I bear no ill will to
anyone who wants to enjoy the lifestyle of biking.. I have discussed many
subjects on here and in person, also with many different people.. That is
the way it should be .. I will also continue to do that.. I oppose any
violations of the rights granted to me by the Constitution of the US and to
the Bill of Rights.. If my expression of that opposition is offensive to you
and you consider that a violation against yourself, then, I must admit that
I am opposed to your viewpoint and resent you very much.. I suspect you
enjoy riding your motorcycle without a helmet, however, you would never lift
a finger to fight for the right to do so.. I suspect, you would never
sacrifice your day of relaxation to support a protest against a law that
would restrict and limit your freedom to vote in a free election.. You don't
want to be bothered, fine, someone will do it for you and you can enjoy the
benefits.. That is your right.. I also defend that.. When you attack me
"personally", as you have done on this thread and another, then I will call
you what you are .. that is my right and I will defend that, as well..

Your friend in Irving
Bill Walker

 

Thanks for clearing that up for all of us.. Now.. get off your ass, mount
that motorcyle and support many of us who are trying to undo a lot of harm
Bush is doing to all of us, including you..

Your friend in Irving
Bill Walker

 

As opposed to what George Bush and Ronald Reagan did (not to mention
Gerald Ford)? As opposed to what George W. Bush will be doing?

Also, I think you're onto something here...I don't remember anyone
ever paying Clinton for a single pardon he gave. Do you have some
insider knowledge? I'm sure if he HAD accepted money for a pardon,
someone would've prosecuted him over it. Can you elaborate?

You're so wrong it's pathetic. The "land grab" you refer to WAS
debated and passed through the house and senate. It was talked to
death for a couple years prior to Clinton signing it into law. It
wasn't a "land grab" where you make it sound like he started snagging
people's property (although that's what was done during the
"super-colider<sp?> project"...remember who did that?). They set aside
acres of land which was already parks and designated them as
"protected". This was portrayed as a "land grab" because the first
thing Bush wanted to do was start drilling and cutting timber. That
law cut Bush/Cheney's plans cold...and they haven't been able to un-do
it after all their trying.

Huh? You make it sound like we're supposed to protect a heritage. If
your kids can't find another place to ride other than the little bit
of protected park land, then they don't need to be riding...and they'd
probably grow up to be self-centered wasting assholes anyway.

My minister once said that environmentalists were wrong about the
earth to be not used. He said the Bible says we are to use everything
on earth as we see fit. Ok, I'll go with that. The way I see fit is to
use a park to view it and enjoy the sight without some raggedy smokin'
oil leakin' motorbike to be ripping through poppin' wheelies. Why
should your use outweigh mine? There's billions of other acres that
aren't protected...go use those.

All this said, what does Clinton have to do with what is going on now?
He's been out of the White House for a couple years...and he wasn't
running for President since '96. All of Clinton's blow-jobs he
received and pardons he handed out didn't affect you or I. People
didn't die because of it. He didn't hand out pardons to terrorists or
people who sent others to their death. Even though he could've handed
some pardons to Tim McVeigh and Ted Kazinski<sp?> (which would've been
equal to what previous Presidents handed out) he chose instead to give
pardons to tax evaders and pot smokers. Funny thing about pardons,
you're not dealing with "nice, honest hard working people"..."nice,
honest hard working people" don't qualify for pardons.

 

You're probably right. I remember alot of discussions in the late 90s
here and on rec.moto about this topic and I heard a couple of
discussions in the house on cspan concerning it. I don't remember
how/who actually did the signing, but I also remember the Republicans
(Bush/Cheney in particular) was screaming about it right before they
took office. I also remember Bush tried to undo this and wasn't able
to. There was also a promotion aimed at undo-ing it called "build it"
or "construct it" or something like that which was nothing more than a
lobby group out of Canada which was a timber connection.

You hear many people spouting crap about Clinton where the things they
spout about doesn't affect anyone. On the other hand, you have things
that DO/DID affect us all done by others and these people can't seem
to recall those things. That "land grab" he referred to didn't affect
me or him. The supercolider<sp?> project that Reagan/Bush was so proud
of snatched people's homes/land from them only to run up millions of
dollars for a couple house plants and some furniture to do "photo ops"
and talk about how wonderful it would be to bust an atom. Not a single
family who lost their homes/property for that was able to get it back.
I can't seem to find any of this "so-called" land that was grabbed by
Clinton, but I can drive up and down this state and show you where
people lost their homes in the 80s.

 

Of course, I remember. I totally supported the conversion of MY lands
to protected status...

Charles

 

for info on the super collider if anyone is intrested...
http://www.hep.net/ssc/
I was going to build my own super collider but bought a Ford Super Duty
instead
I think the consept is the same if I collide with anything and live thats
super!!!

IceMan