Pongy leathers.

Sorry don't agree.Require imperical evidence?

 

I'd think it makes the fibres slip over each other and just pull apart
too easily.

 

Never has yet
It actually stops stitching from rotting

 

Shep© says...

I'll wait for the final verdict from Mr Varnsverry. I was always told
that leather and silicone don't get on, so I avoided using it.

 

In

But surely with a nice slippy grease, you'll slide off your seat much easier
and go miles further down the road?

 

Manufacturers of CE approved leathers only recommend dilute soapy water
to clean their products, followed by an application of a leather
preservative. There are some leather cleaners on the market - including
some from top end automotive cleaning brands - which are targeted
specifically at motorcyclists' clothing, but I have not used any of
them - probably because my riding gear at the moment (with the
exception of boots and gloves)is "CE textile", rather than "CE leather"

I'll see what information exists on the effects of silicon on leather.
If none, I could always take two samples of sewn seams, spray one with
silicone regularly for a few weeks, but leave the other untouched, then
put them both through the EN 13595-3 burst strength tests.

 

Don't put it on the arse of the pants<grin> or the seat for that
matter :O

however as per another post saddle soap is good as are quite a few
things.

 

<makes sign of the crucifix>
Aaaaarrrrggghhh!!! Don't use saddle soap on clothing leather.
</makes sign of the crucifix>

 

A doctor writes:

"I did a test of various leather treatments on seams many years ago.
The results were not significant. Had the seams been worn rather than
sitting on the bench the results might have been different. So
interesting thought. Unlikely to be a real effect as the leather
fibres have protein to protein links and are not loose fibres.
Silicone oil, or any other, should not affect bonding. Oiling does
have some positive effect though, hence the weakness of 'dry' leather.
Hmmm No final comment!"

Do I proceed with silicon conditioning of the seam samples?

 

Which is precisely why the ACU has banned Keprotec
(Cordura/Kevlar/Lycra blend) suits from use in races held on closed
public roads (e.g.: the TT). The reduced coefficient of friction,
compared to that of leathers, means the wearer hits the roadside
furniture that much faster - and harder - particularly in the wet. Or
so the chairman of the technical committee informs me.

 

As I don't believe in water proof leather, I'd propose a
slightly different test. Ride a full day at around 130 km/h
in constant rain on a bike without a full fairing.

Positive results might make me think about trying bike
clothing without a membrane again.

 

I think this is what I said earlier in this thread ?
So, with this endorsement, does it seem more acceptable,
Lozzo ?

 

Paul Varnsverry says...

I'd be intersted in the results.

 

OH- wrote

BTDTGTTS.

These days I wear high tech man made materials except in High Summer or
the dry bit in February.


Waterprooof leathers - bollox. Shower resistant I'll concede.

 

Why not.Done it for years on me leather jackets.

 

Does someone else wish to tell him?

 

Paul Varnsverry wrote

Tell him what?

 

It just so happens I have some test samples going through for clients
at the moment, and there should hopefully be a surplus of seams from
which I can liberate a couple of examples for the purpose of this
exercise. I'll report back on this subject in, oh; will 3 - 6 months be
OK?

 

I asked you?

 

I didn't know about the protein links. Interesting.

Be good to find out what effect, if any, silicon has on any part of the
garment, just to add to the sum total of knowledge.