Postponed due to rain

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Julian Bond, Apr 4, 2004.

  1. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    What's the problem with Fontana in the rain? Is it unusually dangerous?

    I ask because I've just read that the F Extreme race is postponed "due
    to rain".
     
    Julian Bond, Apr 4, 2004
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  2. Like Daytona, the Speedway part of the course has a fairly high degree of
    banking, which makes it very dangerous to run in the rain. And it never
    rains in southern California... :)

    Craig
     
    Darla and Craig, Apr 4, 2004
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  3. Julian Bond

    Ron Guest

    Not to mention that the infield turns are put inside of the oval,
    and have movable walls and such. Not enough runoff room anywhere
    except the front straight.

    One would think that the AMA would be on the lookout for more tracks
    where races could be run in the rain, there are such places in the
    U.S.
     
    Ron, Apr 4, 2004
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  4. Julian Bond

    jim Guest

    Such as?
     
    jim, Apr 4, 2004
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  5. Daytona and Fontana

    Craig
     
    Darla and Craig, Apr 4, 2004
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  6. Julian Bond

    Ron Guest

    Kansas, Texas, they both have road courses that would be better
    then tracks like Pike's Peak and Fontana. At least they have added
    Virginia and Barber in Alabama in the past few years.
     
    Ron, Apr 5, 2004
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  7. Julian Bond

    Ron Guest

    Brainerd, becasue the main straight is used for a drag stirp, they
    spray traction enhancer on it, when it rains it becomes unridable, or
    at the very least extremely dangerous, Pike's Peak is another one that
    they will not race on in the rain because of the tight infield (under
    1 minute lap times in the dry).
     
    Ron, Apr 5, 2004
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  8. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    So that's Daytona, Fontana, Brainerd, Pike's Peak and Sears Point.
    Although of course, the spring under the tarmac at Sears Point has been
    "fixed".

    It sure is a good thing the AMA series isn't in the UK ;-)
     
    Julian Bond, Apr 6, 2004
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  9. And let's not forget that they couldn't race in the rain at Loudon.
    Now they don't race there in the dry either, despite it having a
    better than average safety record.
     
    Bruce Richmond, Apr 7, 2004
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  10. Julian Bond

    jim Guest

    rain...

    Daytona and Fontana

    Craig
    [/QUOTE]
    You miss the point . AMA doesn't put on races, promoters do. All the AMA
    does is provide the framework
    If someone comes up with the money, you could race at a million different
    tracks. As long as the nut is made and the track passes inspection, you got
    a race...
    Of course, turning a profit is something that a promotor takes into
    account...
     
    jim, Apr 8, 2004
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  11. You miss the point . AMA doesn't put on races, promoters do. All the AMA
    does is provide the framework
    If someone comes up with the money, you could race at a million different
    tracks. As long as the nut is made and the track passes inspection, you got
    a race...
    Of course, turning a profit is something that a promotor takes into
    account...
    [/QUOTE]
    I actually havenn't missed the point, I simply did not elaborate on that
    part of it. How many tracks actually make money putting on AMA races? The
    crowds last year were more pathetic than the year before and so on...

    By the way, for what it is worth, I have see a rain race as Brainerd, though
    perhaps since the drag strip has been redone, they no longer do that...

    Also, the condition of the tracks for bike racind at Brainerd, Pikes Peak,
    mid -ohio and others is horrible, full of patches and bumps that should not
    have to be dealt with at a "professional" level of road racing. I can't
    wait till next year when hopefully I can just attend Laguba Seca and Moto GP
    at Barber and be all the happier for it..

    C-
     
    Darla and Craig, Apr 8, 2004
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  12. Kinda hard to draw a crowd when the promoter can't guarantee that the
    show will go on. They used to have an AMA National at Pocono. After
    it got rained out a couple of times nobody showed up.

    When the AMA postponed the Superbike race at Loudon due to rain, the
    promoter made a deal to run one of the support races paying double the
    purse but no points, just so the crowd would get to see some racing.
    The Superbike race was held on Monday, with nobody there to watch.

    The next year the AMA not only refused to run the Superbikes in the
    rain, they would not allow any bikes to go out on a wet track. Guess
    they thought it would make the Superbikes look bad if others went out
    when they wouldn't. When they ran the races on Monday, not even the
    camera crews hung around to watch. That was the last AMA Superbike
    race at Loudon, or anywhere in the northeast.

    Last year Daytona got rained out on Sunday. There wasn't much of a
    crowd on Monday, and the turn out was pretty sad this year. Good
    thing it didn't get rained out again.
     
    Bruce Richmond, Apr 9, 2004
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  13. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    Cadwell is such a good track! Where else can you find a road race track
    with a jump? It's brilliant for the spectators and often produces good
    racing.

    But you're right, it is stupidly dangerous in places. They've done a lot
    of work to sort out the place that Kagayama crashed but the woodland
    section is still pretty tight.

    Almost all the UK tracks have character and are a real test of skill and
    nerve. But at the same time almost all the tracks have at least one
    glaring flaw.

    But we do race in the rain. Even at the Rockingham Oval.
     
    Julian Bond, Apr 10, 2004
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